Kings County Farmer Speaks Out In Support of HSR
In Kings County, as in other places along the HSR route, there’s a tendency for a small but vocal group of people to oppose the project and make it look like they speak for everyone like them when they do so. In Palo Alto, a few neighbors might attack the project and suddenly you see reports that “neighbors are opposed to HSR” when in fact many people who live near the tracks are strongly supportive. In Kings County it’s been “farmers” who are supposedly mobilizing against the project.
And there too, reality doesn’t follow the neat lines the critics would like. In today’s Hanford Sentinel, Bill Clark, a farmer whose family has been tilling the soil in Kings County for 100 years has an excellent op-ed in support of the project, directly addressing some of the flawed claims critics have been making.
He opens the op-ed with this:
I have not attended any of the forums on high-speed rail, largely because I did not wish to argue with good, longtime agricultural friends. However, I feel I must speak out.
The Clark family has farmed and produced milk in Kings County for over 100 years. We love Valley agriculture and therefore I read the lead article in the June 8 Sentinel “High-speed rail opponents jam meetings” with great interest and but also great concern. It seems like the whole ag community is against the high-speed rail in Kings County. I have not heard of ag concerns in Tulare or Fresno counties, but they may well be there. However, from what I understand, Tulare or Visalia would be very happy to have the train and station that Hanford is trying to reject.
In a business, which I founded in the 1970s and still continues, we export cattle genetics to over 70 countries around the world. My staff and I were fortunate to use the high-speed rail systems in Europe and Japan for many years. These systems are very impressive, And we have all read of the great network of high-speed rail that China is building. Thus, while I understand the anger of having farm land taken from you or maybe the frustration of not getting the answers you seek from the state, there is still much I don’t understand and I have questions which I have not seen fully covered in the news.
What Clark is saying here is that the agriculture industry derives direct benefits from having a high speed rail stop nearby. This isn’t the 19th century where the industry is solely made up of people who grow things on land and haul it to market by wagon. This is the 21st century, where an entire industry has grown up to serve the needs of farmers – who themselves need to get to and from the other parts of the state. A cattle genetics exporter, a fertilizer dealer, a tractor salesman all have use for a bullet train that can get them where they need to go quickly and affordably. So too do the farmworkers whose labor makes the industry possible. And of course, so too do the farmowners themselves.
Clark goes on to point out that other transportation projects have wound up requiring the purchase of farmland without any negative effect on the industry or the county at all:
It seems everyone is almost afraid to ask questions for fear of being shouted down. Therefore I post them in hopes of achieving a more objective discussion of the proposed high-speed rail in the media and meetings.
1. The biggest concern seems to be the ag land which will be taken out of production or crossed on an angle. The Kings County Farm Bureau seems to have taken a lead position on this. But if true, where were the farm bureau and all the others when widening Highway 198 took a big slice of prime farm land from dairyman DeJong and others? Where were they when we sold considerable prime land west of Hanford to the city which became the much-needed joint high school and junior college as well as subdivisions outside of town? I don’t recall the anyone telling us that expansion of the city was wrong.
As agriculturalists we were fairly compensated and the others will be as well. So why this sudden outburst of anger? And when I hear someone claim his orchard in the path of the high-speed rail is worth $100,000 per acre, please tell him we have quite a bit nearby we would be very delighted to sell for a fraction of that!
This is a folksy way of calling the HSR opponents’ bluff. Farmers in Kings County of regularly sold their land for the needs of development. It didn’t destroy the economy and it didn’t destroy agriculture. People adjusted, made do, and often were better off than before. This is all worth keeping in mind the next time you read a “sky is falling!!!” attack on HSR from a farmer whose land is in the path of the trains.
To be clear, we all sympathize with someone having some project come through their land. It’s never an easy thing to deal with. But what Clark points out is that it’s not a difficult thing to deal with either, as farmers who have been through the process can attest. Kings County has been through this process countless times and come through just fine. There’s every reason to believe they’ll come through high speed rail just fine, too.
Clark goes on to talk about some of the other benefits of HSR for the county, and challenges the absurd “it will cost the local economy $100 million” claim. Go read the whole op-ed, it’s well worth it. Common sense may not always win out over breathless hyperbole, but once again, common sense and the facts are on the side of those of us who want high speed rail built.

What the hell is the matter with those people there? Some people wish to speak in favor of the railroad, and they are almost shouted down, if not threatened. Mr. Clark lays out his opinion, does so well and respectfully, and what does he get for responses? Complaints about “boondoggles” (can’t those clowns come up with anything else?), complaints about “we can’t afford it” (as if we can afford oil wars and other problems from oil dependency that are caused by our car dependency), complaints about “no benefit” because there apparently isn’t a station planned for the area (but aren’t there connecting services?). . .
Mr. Clark pointed out how there were no complaints or concerns about big highways and sprawl developments (some of which were quite recent), but now some people have it in for a skinny, non-polluting (at least directly), oil-independent, safer, faster, more comfortable means of transportation.
No wonder this country is looking like a land populated by fools, idiots, and nincompoops.
wu ming Reply:
June 15th, 2011 at 12:03 am
just because people are loud does not mean that they are the majority.
political_incorrectness Reply:
June 15th, 2011 at 12:04 am
Got to love our education system, where we teach people that the way to be heard is be different and loud. Maybe we should return to the good old days of constructive criticism and dialouge where we can actually find some common ground.
VBobier Reply:
June 15th, 2011 at 12:04 am
HSR is something new to these folks and some fear things that are new, I was taught not to fear something new.
Chris G Reply:
June 15th, 2011 at 4:38 am
These people will fall in line when the money for oil wars dries up because we’re spending it on more important water wars.
Regarding the other comments about how to debate is get loud, look at all the talk tv and radio shows. Some have been on for 20+ years and their number one skill is to yell louder than the caller and hang up when confronted with facts. It really is no wonder this country really is inhabited by fools idiots and nincompoops.
Peter Reply:
June 15th, 2011 at 5:06 am
Don’t forget though, the current water shortage in the CV is a product of Congressional machinations, if you believe the signs all the way up and down I-5, so there is no need for water wars. Just open the pump from the Sacramento delta…
Paulus Magnus Reply:
June 15th, 2011 at 7:38 am
While the idea of annexing Canada for it’s water is amusing, I’m fairly sure we will try desalination first, especially since we are already building such a plant in Carlsbad. In fact, that’s probably a better idea than building some new canals.
VBobier Reply:
June 15th, 2011 at 7:55 am
It’s about time someone did desalination, Of course You’d think the salt can be harvested too.
wu ming Reply:
June 15th, 2011 at 11:36 am
it’s not just table salt, there’s a ton of toxic stuff that’s mixed up in desal tailings.
better to stop wasting so much water, recycle greywater, redo flood drainage networks so it spills out and absorbs runoff into the water table instead of flowing right into the ocean.
and then let’s take the selenium soils on the westside of the san joaquin out of production and let them revert to grassland.
all of that takes a lot less energy and makes a lot less waste than desal.
VBobier Reply:
June 15th, 2011 at 3:13 pm
That makes sense too. The desal tailings could be investigated to see if there’s anything usable of course, as one mans trash might be anothers pot o gold so to speak. Oh and most table salt is not sea salt, But then most is done from evaporation ponds, not much sea there.
I am assuming this is the same Bill Clark who inherited 300 dairy acres in Kings County, built it up to about 4,500 acres and founded the amazing Clark Museum for Japanese Art and Culture just ten miles out of Hanford. Bravo Mr. Clark.
D. P. Lubic Reply:
June 15th, 2011 at 4:25 am
Yes it is, based on the tag line that follows the editorial:
“Clark is the founder of the Clark Center for Japanese Art and Culture in Hanford.”
neville snark Reply:
June 15th, 2011 at 6:39 am
Figures. A f***ing left-wing commie w***er! :)
Off topic, but of interest: declining traffic in the Northwest, with road funding problems for at least one toll bridge:
http://daily.sightline.org/blog_series/dude-where-are-my-cars/
The whole “diagonal is terrible!” mentality amuses me. Yes, some field shapes are slightly more effuicient than others for arable (long rectangles work best for combine harvesters, for instance) – but the notion that having a diagonal boundary will kill your farm is absurd. Go and look at field shapes in England. Most are incredably irregular, and yet still profitable.
synonymouse Reply:
June 15th, 2011 at 9:52 am
I conjecture that if PB-CHSRA obsesses on the 99 corridor with greenfield in sectors like Hanford we will see Stilt-A-Rail back in the plan. Stupid and wasteful as useful in view of the cheap I-5 alternative but stilts could somewhat placate the ag discontent.
BruceMcF Reply:
June 15th, 2011 at 10:51 am
However, no obsession is required for preferring the 99 corridor, so if the CHSRA pursues it non-obsessively, better value for money seems available.
If obsessiveness predicts over-engineering, then a hypothetical I-5 corridor through the CV would be overengineered as all get out, since only obsessing over a subset of factors without considering the total transport markets to be served would get the I-5 alignment selected before the 99 alignment has been built and is on track to saturating capacity.
synonymouse Reply:
June 15th, 2011 at 11:04 am
I-5 is clearly better value for the money if the construction costs for the median come in as low as I suggest they could be. Fortunately there aren’t that many overpasses to deal with and trenching is one possibility. They are probably going to need some earthquake retrofitting anyway. Same applies to the freeway lanes which wear out and can be rechannelized as they are repaved.
You would still have the Bako to Tejon high speed connection with an upgraded San Joaquin to LA. And of course with the money saved you would want to proceed north from the Tracy area via the best routing to serve the 3 million souls in the Sac conurbation.
thatbruce Reply:
June 15th, 2011 at 12:27 pm
The enabling legislation provides for the high-speed service to link the major population centers of California, not for the high-speed service to skip the ~3 million souls in the (south) Central Valley as you keep insisting on.
BruceMcF Reply:
June 15th, 2011 at 12:30 pm
And the “upgraded San Joaquin” has to be an all new, all grade separated alignment to provide a single seat ride on the Express HSR network when it junctions. Your game is always to say,
“when looking into the nitty gritty details, here is a problem to work through, so here is an abstract high level sketch, carefully ignoring the nitty gritty details, and comparing apples to oranges, the high level sketch without any nitty gritty details considered has fewer problems than the real world alignment working through real world problems.”
For instance, an expressway median alignment will of course not be 220mph all the way, so will lose time versus a marginal alignment, though the marginal alignment will cost more. And many of the alignment problems of the 220mph Express HSR corridor will be common to an all grade separated 150mph alignment. There will be savings, sure, but nowhere near enough to also build an Express HSR I-5 alignment.
synonymouse Reply:
June 15th, 2011 at 2:47 pm
Gentlemen, there are some massive budget cuts coming – get used to it. The CHSRA will have to adjust its scheme accordingly. Pulling off on-the-fly changes and the appropriate enabling legislation thereto are what politicians are for and getting same upheld are what inhouse judges are for.
From all indications on tv today’s State budget is going to be truly hokey. The CHSRA will do doubt have to be equally “creative”.
datacruncher Reply:
June 15th, 2011 at 1:47 pm
What is Illinois getting for all of the money they are throwing at UP, isn’t it something like only a 6 RT daily passenger schedule with only 3 of those at a top speed of 110mph? That is the current San Joaquin schedule frequency with a few minutes of savings.
Richard Mlynarik Reply:
June 15th, 2011 at 2:19 pm
Welcome to the world of Capitol Corridor “upgrades” (oh no don’t run the trains via the Altamont Pass ph no that’s for “upgraded” Amtrak) and Altamont “overlay” and Caltrain/UPRR “shared use” and Metrolink/UPRR “shared use” and Caltrain/HSR Metrolink/HSR “never the twain shall meet because one is commuter rail and the other is high speed rail so obviously they need different stations.”
Dig a pit. shovel in money. Repeat. Forever.
synonymouse Reply:
June 15th, 2011 at 2:55 pm
In the end I believe the CHSRA is going to have to go FRA-AAR anyway or damn well close to it. Rumor has had it for some time that even BART will have to adopt heavier structurally sounder equipment and beef up its elevateds to conform. The Rohr cars were just aluminum beer cans w which actually crinkled on top. You could look down on them from the Muni level and see the crinkles.
Andre Peretti Reply:
June 15th, 2011 at 10:46 am
It was the same in France and that was lucky for the SNCF. It enabled it to help the farmers restructure their plots so that the tracks separated properties instead of cutting through them. When it was not possible, tracks had to be elevated.
The SNCF has to find ageements with the farmers, anyway. In France, there are so many laws protecting farmers that it’s impossible to expropriate them against their will. Where I live, plans to build a new school had to be abandoned because the owner of a dozen sheep stubbornly refused to sell his tiny pasture at any price.
I can’t repeat myself how utterly meaningless all this NIMBYism really is. Coming from Germany, this seems like a deja vu. The same people complaining about the same things. But, I also know what happened after the NIMBY attacks. Now that the HSR system is built, there really is nobody who complains about it except a few rail enthusiasts.
But those folks are complaining because HSR takes the most economic route and the highest possible speed, thus misses out on beautiful panoramas and the joy of traveling at a slow speed through the beautiful landscape.
I say it again and again. CAHSR is not Amtrak. Property values will go up over the time as people will prefer to live closer to a HSR station for obvious reasons.
OT: How High-Speed Rail Died in Texas, Thrived in Spain
This is one of the few articles I’ve seen about HSR where the author actually gets it.
http://www.miller-mccune.com/business-economics/how-high-speed-rail-died-in-texas-thrived-in-spain-32021/
What is really happening here is that a lot of farmers are angry they didn’t get to cash in on the housing bubble by selling their property at an inflated price. So now they’re trying to drum up this opposition to maybe get the CAHSR authority to overpay them for any property takes now.
wu ming Reply:
June 15th, 2011 at 10:04 pm
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