Public Support for HSR Remains Strong
We will know the California high speed rail project is in trouble when its longtime supporters start turning against it. And we will also know the project is in good shape when those same supporters rally to its defense.
Over the last few days, we have seen several editorials and op-eds from longtime HSR backers that acknowledge some of the areas where the California High Speed Rail Authority needs to improve – but also mount a good defense of the project and its value for California. While there’s been a lot of criticism leveled at the project in the two years since Prop 1A passed, most of it comes from either known project opponents, or from NIMBYs whose support for the project, always tenuous, takes a back seat to their backward-looking values.
Let’s start with a great column from Lois Henry in today’s Bakersfield Californian titled “High speed rail is on the right track”:
California’s high speed rail ambitions are fraught with difficulties.
It will be expensive. Wildly so.
Lawsuits have already begun over proposed routes.
Ridership estimates are too high. Cost estimates may be too low.
Some have lost confidence in the High Speed Rail Authority’s ability to pull it off.
Political support is teetering at the state and federal level.
(Did I mention the spendy part?)
And we would be absolute fools to walk away from it now.
Now, I don’t quite agree with everything Henry wrote here. State and federal leaders remain committed to the project, especially Governor-elect Jerry Brown, as well as incoming House Transportation Committee Chair John Mica, a Florida Republican. As I told her in a conversation we had late last week as she was writing this column, there is every reason to believe the ridership estimates are close to the mark – we have a clear global record of high passenger rail ridership, including on the Acela back east. While the specific ridership numbers matter for whatever business model the CHSRA ultimately adopts, there is no doubt at all that ridership will be significant. To doubt it, one has to deny global warming, deny rising oil prices, deny proven public demand for fast rail service around the world, and deny the great shift away from driving.
Still, I came here to praise Lois Henry, and she’s not the one making these criticisms. She clearly understands the need for HSR, explaining that:
The 2009 California Transportation Commission report to the Legislature shows that maintaining existing pavement on California’s highways will cost $6 billion a year over the next 10 years. (That’s more, by the way, than the estimated cost of the entire high speed rail project — $43 billion.)
And we don’t have $6 billion a year. We have less than $2 billion a year for maintenance, according to the report. That’s not even looking at freeway expansion.
That’s a pretty significant stat. We are going to spend more than the cost of building HSR just to maintain what we have – and that’s before looking at the cost of freeway expansion, which has been put at $25 billion to widen just Highway 99 alone.
To be clear, Lois Henry isn’t saying all is well. She acknowledges, as did the authors of the Peer Review report, as has this blog, that the Authority needs to make improvements, especially with staffing and outreach. But Henry, like Will Kempton (OCTA CEO and lead author of the Peer Review report) and myself, see these as understandable growing pains on the part of an agency that was badly understaffed for most of its life, until the twin avalanche of Prop 1A’s passage and nearly $4 billion in federal funding. Here’s how Henry puts it:
That uncertainty lit a fire under long time critics who’ve ramped up opposition and it created new skeptics among recession weary taxpayers fearful of a government boondoggle.
To which I say, excellent!
Question, accuse, criticize, demand answers, hold their feet to the fire — get involved.
Of course, many of the project critics are not disinterested people who just want the best project. Some, like Alain Enthoven or Morris Brown, are merely driven by concerns for their own property values. Others, like several Congressional Republicans, simply don’t believe in high speed rail at all because it goes against their ideology of a nation where driving in a car is the only way to get around.
Still, Henry is coming at this from a position of strength – she believes the project is strong enough to where this criticism and oversight will only help matters. I hope it turns out that way. However, I would also argue that HSR supporters need to do more to demonstrate their support, as well as help navigate these turbulent waters, by letting the Legislature know they need to fund more hiring at the Authority, and by letting Congress and the White House know we want more, not less, HSR funding.
If we lost the support of someone like Lois Henry – who told me she’d been supporting this for nearly 20 years – I would be concerned. Instead, she wants the project to keep moving forward. She was joined late last week by the editorial pages of the two leading newspapers in the state. First up, the Los Angeles Times editorial from Saturday, commenting on California receiving another $624 million in federal HSR funding:
But that’s perfectly OK with us, because California can use the money. Our state’s future high-speed rail line from San Diego to San Francisco and Sacramento is already hitting snags, and we expect many more before the system is complete. The $624 million from Wisconsin and Ohio, combined with the $3 billion in federal funds the state has already received, will help smooth the way. Thanks a billion, cheeseheads.
Notice the LA Times’ attitude here. Sure, the project is “hitting snags” but that’s to be expected with a big project, so let’s keep moving forward. Again, I would disagree that it is “hitting snags” – most of those “snags” are overblown or misstated (like the ridership issues) or are simply lies (like the “train to nowhere” bullshit). Still, if we lost the LA Times I’d be pretty worried. Instead they’re solidly on board with the project.
So too is the San Francisco Chronicle. Their editorial from last Wednesday notes “obstacles on the tracks” but calls for the project to move forward:
But it’s worth remembering how we got here. A growing state is clogged with airport and freeway traffic. Any hope of curbing smog and controlling climate change rests on getting people out of cars and airplanes and onto transit, such as super trains shooting between 26 stations aligned in California’s core. Jobs, construction work and development add to the appeal of high-speed rail….
Running the first rails through farmville may sound pointless. But it loops in Fresno, the region’s biggest population center, and in a pinch can be used by Amtrak, which can operate its trains at higher speeds. There’s also a bigger message: High-speed rail is getting under way….
So many challenges, nearly all at once, can immobilize policymakers worried about making fateful choices. But in this case, the goal should be clear: California wants high-speed rail, and it’s time to get rolling.
While I wish the Chronicle, Times, and Lois Henry didn’t give quite so much credence to some of the criticisms made against the project, what matters is that all three believe the project should go forward anyway. That’s a sign of a resilient project, and of public support that is both broad and deep.
Of course, everyone has their breaking point. If the project were to become embroiled in a serious scandal, or have severe construction problems, or massive cost overruns (as opposed to a few increases here and there), then I would expect some of these supporters to turn. I am well aware I’ll be one of the die-hards, supporting this project no matter what happens – but that’s because I realize that California simply cannot prosper without sustainable infrastructure like this. I feel similarly about solar and wind power, but I can only run one blog and chair one organization at a time.
There is one thing I mentioned to Lois Henry that I want to repeat here – it made it into her column in a way, but I should elaborate anyway. One of the issues here is that the federal stimulus has altered the usual timeline for the project. Before final decisions had been made about precisely where the tracks will go and what the tracks will look like (especially their vertical alignment), the CHSRA had to apply for up to $8 billion in federal stimulus. As it turned out, the CHSRA had no room for error and could not have passed the opportunity up; it may be a few more years before another similarly large amount of federal HSR money comes available.
The Authority could not wait, could not tell the FRA “sorry, we haven’t determined yet how the Chowchilla Wye will look, or which segment we want to build first.” They had to apply with what they knew. And because the project is still undergoing design, the plans could – and have – changed from year to year, sometimes from month to month, even week to week. That happens when you’re in the middle of the planning and design process, it’s normal and typical.
Unfortunately, we have a news media in this country that was trained over the last 40 years to believe that any time government says one thing and does another, it’s a sign of scandal, of a hopelessly flawed project. That’s a ridiculous way to approach journalism, but that’s what we’re stuck with, at least until more media conglomerates go bankrupt. And despite that, we’ve got three members of the California press corps who still see the value of HSR, who refuse to believe that a few growing pains are reason to pull the plug on the most important infrastructure project in this state in the last 50 years.
That’s the sign of a strong project, of deep public support. The HSR critics and deniers can talk all they want to about getting the Legislature to “pull the plug” or getting Prop 1A repealed at the ballot box – but neither one is going to happen. As I’ve been saying for nearly three years now, Californians want bullet trains. And soon, we will finally get them.

did you read the comments after the bakersfield article. Its as if there’s a script that gets posted in all newspaper blogs automatically every time there’s an article about anything.
D. P. Lubic Reply:
December 12th, 2010 at 8:07 pm
I’ve noticed this myself. It boils down to people who are for it and people who are against it. The reasons on both sides remain the same for each; one side sees the need for an alternative to driving and oil dependency, the other worries about the money and is perhaps of the opinion this is technology from the 19th century. If you’ve seen enough of these things, you can almost guess the age range of the writer by the writing style. Hardly worth looking at them much, except you might find an interesting expression, as one fellow said, “Thank you, cheeseheads,” in reference to the Ohio and Wisconsin foolishness. Still entertaining in small doses, of course!
I just wish some others would bring up the hard numbers and so forth that I’ve brought up, the fact that the road system is badly underpriced, etc.; I think that helps build the case, and I even get the impression it drives some of the driving crowd nuts to see how badly their finances really work out.
Spokker Reply:
December 12th, 2010 at 8:25 pm
“California is BROKE! We cannot afford it!!!”
“TRAIN TO NOWHERE what will these politicians think of next?!?!?!”
“WHO WILL RIDE IT???? I MEAN cars are erotic and trains r not.”
jimsf Reply:
December 12th, 2010 at 8:30 pm
doesn’t even have to be an hsr article. doesn’t matter the topic, the response is the same.
Jack In Fresno Reply:
December 12th, 2010 at 8:34 pm
These people are so attached to their cars because 90% of them lost their virginity in the backseat. We need to get more people gettin’ down on trains, That’ll fix them!
D. P. Lubic Reply:
December 12th, 2010 at 8:36 pm
Ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho!! (Even if it is indecent.)
adirondacker12800 Reply:
December 12th, 2010 at 10:21 pm
The other 10% still have it…..
Spokker Reply:
December 12th, 2010 at 11:57 pm
Forget the mile high club, I’m starting the standard gauge club.
Peter Reply:
December 13th, 2010 at 12:28 am
Again, you win the Horniest HSR Supporter Award.
D. P. Lubic Reply:
December 13th, 2010 at 4:50 am
Gotta cue up Spokker’s theme song (or, at least it should be Spokker’s theme song):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X5To3gY3Ztk
Have fun.
James Reply:
December 13th, 2010 at 7:19 am
I thought it might be Ian Dury’s Over the Points. (sorry, no video)
http://www.lyricstime.com/ian-dury-over-the-points-lyrics.html
D. P. Lubic Reply:
December 13th, 2010 at 4:30 pm
That does look interesting. I wonder what Spokker himself would pick?
YesonHSR Reply:
December 13th, 2010 at 8:07 am
Nonsense repeated over and over..the author has nothing to write about so he just repeats what he has heard.And really look at his other ‘stories” its always whinning about something /someone that he thinks is wrong
YesonHSR Reply:
December 13th, 2010 at 8:09 am
SORRY this post was for the SJ Merc thread!!!
By the way, does anyone know how to import a path from Google Earth into Google Maps?
Peter Reply:
December 12th, 2010 at 8:59 pm
No matter, figured it out.
“And despite that, we’ve got three members of the California press corps who still see the value of HSR, who refuse to believe that a few growing pains are reason to pull the plug on the most important infrastructure project in this state in the last 50 years.
That’s the sign of a strong project, of deep public support.”
Seriously? Doesn’t sound very deep to me.
In other news, Robert Cruikshank and this site are now in “Destination Freedom,” James RePass’ National Corridors Initiative newsletter:
http://www.nationalcorridors.org/df2/df12132010.shtml
“HERE COMES HIGH SPEED RAIL”
“There goes the neighborhood”
“There goes $$$ for schools”
“There goes my business”
These signs have popped up all over here in Burlingame.
There appears to be no effort to argue against the fear mongering lies and misinformation put out by the HSR deniers/NIMBYS.
I was one of the ‘thousands’ (it keeps growing) that attended the “HSR Boondoggle” rally in Burlingame. (Police estimate the crowd to be less than 300). Additionally there were a number of pro HSR folks, such as myself, there too, so it was not as big an event as the NIMBYs want us to believe.
However they make what appear to be strong arguments against HSR.
‘The “prestigious” UC Berkeley Transportation Institute has questioned the accuracy of the ridership estimates and claims the estimates are way over inflated.’
‘The State Auditor has debunked the HSRA business plan.’
‘Transportation advocacy groups such as The California Rail Foundation and TRANSDEF are opposed to the project.’
I tried to distribute my own flier stating facts about HSR and the Caltrain corridor, at first people were interested because they thought it was anti-HSR, but once they saw otherwise people were not interested in the truth. People threw it back at me and question “Why am I (are you) killing trees/wasting paper?” “HSR is going to destroy my house!” and so on…
The problem is that the more of these signs pop up (I hear that 5,000 were made), and the NIMBYs continue to push their fear mongering lies and misinformation, the true support for HSR wanes.
jimsf Reply:
December 13th, 2010 at 4:57 am
well whatever they are doing in burlingame, I haven’t heard one work about any of it in san francisco a whopping 15 miles away. People don’t pay any more attention to burlingame than they do to atherton around here.
Jeff Carter Reply:
December 13th, 2010 at 7:13 am
That’s because HSR ‘will not effect, divide, or be seen in San Francisco’ because ‘HSR will be in a tunnel throughout San Francisco’ because ‘Quentin Kopp is from San Francisco’ as claimed by the peninsula NIMBYs, who have also made the same assertion about HSR being in a tunnel through San Jose because ‘Rod Diridon is from San Jose.’
In order for HSR to get to San Francisco, it will have to go through Burlingame and Atherton.
The problem is that if you lie convincingly and constantly enough people will start to believe the NIMBYs (look at Rush Limbaugh). The NIMBYs have a Facebook page and a number of splinter groups in their court. My concern is that there appears to be no organized (or not enough) effort to refute the NIMBY lies.
J. Wong Reply:
December 13th, 2010 at 10:06 am
Luckily, their only recourse is the courts where lies cannot be presented as truth.
James Reply:
December 13th, 2010 at 7:16 am
I hadn’t heard about it next door in San Mateo.
MGimbel Reply:
December 13th, 2010 at 7:09 am
Wow, imagine if they put all that effort towards making signs and holding anit-HSR rallys into actually digging a trench or tunnel themselves. They’d probably have it finished in no time. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jq2I7xs0Dtc
jimsf Reply:
December 13th, 2010 at 10:58 am
LOL plus that would totally stimulate the shovel manufacturing sector.
YesonHSR Reply:
December 13th, 2010 at 7:41 am
Its the media and today “big news story” I have seen them at events here in SF and it has 20 or 30 people at it and when shown on the news you would think 3,000 the way its played up…prop1A passed by 20-25% in SanMateo county thats what matters not what the Nimbys that voted no want
Paulus Magnus Reply:
December 13th, 2010 at 9:48 am
Have you suggested to them that they could easily preserve all the trees, homes, etc. by passing a temporary property tax (and selling revenue bonds derived from it) to pay for the tunneling they desire?
J. Wong Reply:
December 13th, 2010 at 10:08 am
Stupid trees! They’re just eucalyptus along the ROW. Not like they’re redwoods or any other native tree. And they grow so fast, if the wanted to replant them they’d be tall again in no time!
BruceMcF Reply:
December 13th, 2010 at 10:17 am
One of the fire retardant eucalypts, surely, rather than the many, many, many species of fire-loving eucalypts?
adirondacker12800 Reply:
December 13th, 2010 at 10:52 am
If they are going for the fire retardant ones go for ones that are sterile too, eliminates that whole invasive weed species problem.
Paulus Magnus Reply:
December 13th, 2010 at 11:04 am
Now now, fleeing fire storms is a time honored California tradition, much like watching high speed car chases instead of that boring NASCAR monstrosity (how many times has NASCAR had a tank, hmm?).
D. P. Lubic Reply:
December 13th, 2010 at 11:43 am
Hey! Only a foaming steam fan like me would remember something like this, but South African Railways, back when it was still almost entirely steam-operated in the bad old (unfortunately aparthaid) 1970s, had a branch or division with wood-fired locomotives–and the wood was eucalyptus, grown in large groves just for locomotive fuel, the choice being made for that fast-growing characteristic.
Now, if the Peninsula didn’t get HSR, and it wound up going up the other side of the bay, it would be a natural for those greenies to bring back steam for their commuter trains, running on wood!
No one would complain about horns with melodic steam whistles singing again!
I like that! I like that!
thatbruce Reply:
December 13th, 2010 at 4:35 pm
SF, amongst others imported Eucalypts around the turn of the 20th century forrailroad ties, but found that new-growth wood doesn’t have the same characteristics as old-growth.
DP: Wood-firing one of these would be a bit much though.
D. P. Lubic Reply:
December 13th, 2010 at 5:01 pm
That’s why we have some of the finest coal in world in my West Virginia! :-)
Here it is at work in a steam locomotive that ran here (but in the footage is on an excursion in New Jersey). The locomotive is a Chesapeake & Ohio class J-3a, built in 1948 by Lima Locomotive Works (actually at that time the Lima-Hamilton Corporation); it’s the last steam passenger locomotive built by a commercial locomotive firm for service in the US. Here it’s running solo (Diesels? We don’t need no stinking diesels!) at 70 to 80 miles an hour with a train of 22 cars:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7rmKYGEicP4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-cRydzRhtKw
Big, powerful, fast, beautiful–what more could you ask in railroad power?
James Fujita Reply:
December 13th, 2010 at 5:02 pm
um…. I hope that’s not “mountaintop removal” coal….
D. P. Lubic Reply:
December 13th, 2010 at 5:04 pm
I understand. . .
YESONHSR Reply:
December 13th, 2010 at 5:21 pm
Yes not Redwoods and to boot on Caltrain property for the most part..if the nimbys want trees plant them in the backyard!!
Jeff Carter Reply:
December 14th, 2010 at 8:50 pm
Tunnels (and trenches) should be avoided except when absolutely necessary (downtown San Francisco, for example). The monies wasted on NIMBY tunnels would be better spent on designing a visually appealing system, system/infrastructure improvements and making the system more user-friendly. Let’s think about the customers using the Caltrain/HSR system, underground stations are not user friendly. As a Caltrain customer I have no desire or interest in riding in a trench or tunnel, as do most Caltrain customers. Building sub-terrain stations will be very costly and there is no way that Broadway station will ever be re-open if the Burlingame NIMBYs force the system to be underground. In fact, there is the slight possibility that there not be any stations in Burlingame if the city continues their unreasonable stance. Underground stations also have a higher operating cost compared to an at-grade of elevated station. Tunnels and trenches will also be much more disruptive during construction to both Caltrain service and the neighborhood including the taking of MORE properties during construction.
Interesting to see Scott Herrold bloviate in the comments section. of the SJ MN: http://www.mercurynews.com/scott-herhold/ci_16838956?nclick_check=1
He half-assedly corrects himself, by pointing out to an errant reader that his column included the transfer of funds. But then he tells another guy he has no interest in answering the questiuon about why his column was wrong.
In j-school, this guy’s picture is displayed over the caption: old school hack.