Obama’s Labor Day HSR Plans

Sep 6th, 2010 | Posted by

With the economy stuck in recession and Democrats about to pay a political price for inadequate stimulus at the November election, the White House has been considering a range of economic measures to spur job creation. Today we learned they’ve settled on more infrastructure spending, including the long-awaited National Infrastructure Bank – and high speed rail is a major element of the plan.

As Politico explains:

According to the president’s plan, high speed rail funding would be integrated into the surface transportation bill for the first time. The bill also calls for the creation of an infrastructure “bank” that would leverage private and government funding for infrastructure projects. And it includes a “Race to the Top” style program that would inject competition into the process of allocating money for nearly 100 different “boutique” projects across the country. The Education Department’s Race to the Top program involves having states compete for funding by producing specific plans about how they would spend the money.

California’s HSR project has already proved its success at these kind of competitive grant processes and would be well positioned to earn a significant amount of money from that bank. In addition, the White House is now committed to funding HSR in a surface transportation bill, although that bill’s prospects remain as uncertain as ever. From the White House’s fact sheet:

The long-term framework includes meaningful reforms:

• The establishment of an Infrastructure Bank to leverage federal dollars and focus on investments of national and regional significance that often fall through the cracks in the current siloed transportation programs;

• The integration of high-speed rail on an equal footing into the surface transportation program to ensure a sustained and effective commitment to a national high speed rail system over the next generation

It is good to see that the Infrastructure Bank is finally going to get the full support of the White House, as is permanent HSR funding through the Transportation Bill. How that gets funded is still unclear, although the New York Times reports that the White House is looking at “cutting oil and gas subsidies,” which sounds like the proposal Congressman John Garamendi told me about at Netroots Nation in July.

The bigger question, of course, is whether the White House can round up enough votes for this proposal. Not only do they need to get one Republican in the Senate (presumably retiring Ohio Senator George Voinovich would be that Republican vote for the Transportation Bill) but they’ll also need to win over Blue Dog Democrats who have already shown they’re willing to risk their own seats and their party’s chances of holding Congress by refusing to support strong economic recovery measures.

Still, given the fact that Republicans are now within striking distance of taking both houses of Congress from the Democrats, it would seem that Dems would want to unite behind these proposals and ensure their passage.

Now would also be a good time for those HSR critics, especially on the Palo Alto City Council, who have been frustrated by the California High Speed Rail Authority’s desire to hold down costs and build HSR tracks in a way these city officials may not want. If people like Palo Alto’s Larry Klein want a trench through their city, they need to stop trying to attack and undermine the project and instead spend their time lobbying Congress to approve the president’s plans so that there can be reliable federal funding that in turn might make it possible for Palo Alto get more of what it wants.

  1. RubberToe
    Sep 6th, 2010 at 12:17
    #1

    This might warrant one of those web pages where one could go and send an e-mail to ones congress person and ask them to support this legislation. Especially if it gets HSR some kind of quasi-stable funding. The president is about to speak in Milwaukee. Should be interesting.

    RT

  2. Roger Christensen
    Sep 6th, 2010 at 14:12
    #2

    An encouraging Labor Day – complete with talk of both Infrastructure Bank and integrating HSR funding in the Transportation Bill. I also wonder about federal loans for infrastructure a la LA’s 30/10. Barbara Boxer alluded to the possibilty of a major announcement regarding that in October.
    My fantasies are starting to connect all sorts of scenarios between today’s Obama speeches, Boxer’s California efforts, and the election season. High hopes fraught with treachery and peril.

  3. Spokker
    Sep 6th, 2010 at 14:57
    #3

    Who will stick their neck out for this infrastructure shit before November? The mantra seems to be “money we don’t have” and all that.

    Sounds like this will be another situation where the Republicans say no and the Democrats sit there with their thumbs up their asses while 2,000 more troops are sent to Afghanistan.

  4. John Burrows
    Sep 6th, 2010 at 16:23
    #4

    This may have already been mentioned, but in case it hasn’t:

    Item #2 of the Palo Alto City Council draft resolution states in part—”And the authority”s cost estimates do not include the cost of necessary land acquisitions”.

    The CHSRA 2009 business plan does includes 391 million for Right-of-Way costs for the San Francisco to San Jose segment

    Are “right-of-way costs” the same as “necessary land acquisitions”?

    Arthur Dent Reply:

    I believe they’re referring to the Supplemental Alternatives Analysis Report, which is what’s being used to compare various alternatives and is the tool for deciding which ones to carry forward.

    Appendix L – Cost Estimates, specifically states that ROW acquisition is not included. For each subsection, the report specifically states that “Capital Cost does not include ROW”. Acquistion cost of permanent ROW is described in vague terms of “lowest”, “low”, “medium”, “high”, etc. The construction ROW is not addressed at all.

    The Cost Elements tables includes unit costs for different densities of land (urban, suburban, dense suburban, etc.), however, ROW for each specific subsection is “NOT INCLUDED”. One could argue that they should be able to take some best guesstimates at these costs, the same way that they’re taking best estimates on other engineering costs. They have all the data to be able to make a ballpark estimate: the ROW required for various alignments, the proposed alignments for specific subsections, the density of the land, and the current ROW widths.

    If cost is a factor (and we keep hearing that it is, except when it isn’t – or maybe vice versa) then the land acquisition estimates should be included in the Cost Elements tables in order to make better informed decisions.

    This complaint is not unique to Palo Alto.

    Nathanael Reply:

    Construction ROW rarely costs much in the end, so it’s not worth including.

    Permanent ROW *cannot* be estimated accurately to a section or tract level. Every time someone tries, one section ends up being much more expensive to acquire. Usually on a big project another sectio ends up being much cheaper.

    There’s a reason numerical estimates of land acquisition costs are not included at detail-level estimates — for another thing it queers negotiations with the landowners. You can only safely include them at a large, overarching level, or if you have landowners who’ve already made you offers.

    Nathanael Reply:

    If you want to, you can do assessed-value estimates for permanent-ROW acquisitions, but those usually end up being far off the mark, and you can barely do those at all when you’re only doing partial acquisition of tracts.

    adirondacker12800 Reply:

    It’s California the assessed value, unless the property was recently sold, bears little relation to the market value.

  5. Ben
    Sep 6th, 2010 at 19:06
    #5

    Obama proposed a national infrastructure bank as part of his budget for the US Department of Transportation earlier but it was largely the GO(B)P, especially Sen. Kit Bond (R-MO) that was responsible for blocking this bill (http://www.landlinemag.com/todays_news/Daily/2010/July10/071910/072210-01.htm). Similarly, Rep. DeLauro introduced a proposal in the House to create an infrastructure bank. There are 58 Democratic co-sponsors but not a single Republican. As with their blocking tax credits for small businesses, Republicans are just not serious about creating jobs. Better to scare people with a mosque than to create jobs.

  6. tony d.
    Sep 6th, 2010 at 19:19
    #6

    So how and the heck is it that the GOP (Grand Obstructionist Party) is predicted to win big this November when they aren’t doing shit for the American people?
    Hats off to Obama and the Dems for at least trying. Hopefully there are some Republicans who have a spine and vote this transportation bill through.

    Brandon from San Diego Reply:

    Complacency! If Dems feel things are swell and not threatened by the GOP, they’ll stay home – nothing to defend. If the GOP comes out in numbers, well, things could go their way. Of course, GOP voters could stay home b/c they feel they’re going to loose anyway.

    Ben Reply:

    @tony d.

    First, the very largest corporations and billionaires are funding the ‘populist’ tea parties: http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2010/08/30/100830fa_fact_mayer . Second, as we say with the fear-mongering with the ‘death panels’ last year or the myths about Obama, the GO(B)P is often willing to outright lie when it is convenient for the party. Third, as another blog noted, there is an ‘enthusiasm gorge’ between the Dems and the Republicans and Democrats have not been participating in this election at nearly the rates they did in 2008. Fourth, Republicans have been trying to scare voters with 100 percent, purely manufactured issues rather than discussing what they’ll do to improve the economy: http://www.nytimes.com/2010/08/06/opinion/06krugman.html .

    This is no joke. One poll last week had Fiorina beating Barbara Boxer by 2 percent (http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2010/senate/ca/california_senate_boxer_vs_fiorina-1094.html). If Boxer loses, the 30/10 plan is in serious doubt and if Democrats lose the Senate, it is also doubtful that we’ll see a dedicated, sustained funding source for high speed rail. Robert does good work on this blog but I wish he’d stress the absolute necessity of voting this November.

    Spokker Reply:

    Fiorina supports 30/10.

    HSRforCali Reply:

    But she doesn’t support HSR. She told reporters that she “doesn’t want government bureaucrats decide high-speed rail is the answer.”

    http://www.mydesert.com/article/20100820/NEWS0301/8200327/Carly-Fiorina-Big-government-destroying-jobs-in-California

    Spokker Reply:

    I know she doesn’t support high speed rail. I was only saying that she supports 30/10, though Boxer probably supports it more, if I had to guess.

    Tony D. Reply:

    But it was the California people who decided that HSR was the answer, not “government bureaucrats.” Oh well, if the Dems loose “big” this November, then they can become the “obstructionists” (filibuster anyone?), and win it all back come 2012!

    Ben Reply:

    Fiorina might have said she supports the 30/10 plan but the GOP remains stridently opposed to any govt spending and the Democrats need to hold onto Boxer’s seat to guarantee they maintain control of the Senate. I wouldn’t be certain that if the Republican party hellbent on cutting spending on infrastructure controls the Senate, they would appropriate a couple of billion dollars for transit in LA. Fiorina might grudgingly support this but do you think Mitch McConnell or Jim DeMint cares one bit about improved transit in Los Angeles County?

    Spokker Reply:

    30/10 is at its simplest a loan that would be paid back with expected sales tax money. It was voter approved and it’s money that is going to be spent anyway. All the loan does is accelerate projects and it actually saves money by funding projects sooner rather than later.

    I believe that the fiscal conservatives are worried about deficit spending that isn’t paid for. Measure R is paid for by the tax payers of Los Angeles County.

    And even if 30/10 fails, those Measure R projects will be built anyway.

  7. D. P. Lubic
    Sep 7th, 2010 at 00:45
    #7

    I am registered as an independent and have never voted straight ticket in my life, but the current Repugnantans–er, Republicans, are not giving me any reason to vote for them.

    Victor Reply:

    Between all the outright lies the two Repugnants & their allies here in California have spouted, I couldn’t agree more, Most of the ads are extremist revisionist views of History being bent to work as mere Propaganda, Goebbels would be proud to have them work for Him.

  8. D. P. Lubic
    Sep 7th, 2010 at 00:56
    #8

    A favorite site of mine, based in New England; check out the two editorials at the bottom of the page:

    http://www.nationalcorridors.org/df2/df09072010.shtml

    General link:

    http://www.nationalcorridors.org/

  9. D. P. Lubic
    Sep 7th, 2010 at 04:39
    #9

    For reference:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Line_communities

    Posted at Palo Alto and Atherton, looks like a place many of us would be proud to call home.

  10. rafael
    Sep 7th, 2010 at 09:34
    #10

    LA Times op-ed: California’s dismal economy needs an infrastructure boost

    http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/commentary/la-oe-meyerson-column-employment-20100907,0,6967539.story

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