Private Funding and High Speed Rail
In recent days there’s been a spate of articles discussing private funding for high speed rail. Some of these articles have been valuable, but only when they’re written by people with an actual understanding of high speed rail around the world. The other articles, produced by members of the California news media or by right-wing op-ed writers, are so lacking in facts that it’s stunning they can be passed off as journalism.
Because private funding will play an as-yet undetermined role in California’s HSR project, it’s important to get beyond the false assumptions peddled by the media. The reality is that there’s a high demand from the private sector to participate in HSR funding, but that private funding is inherently risky and should be dealt with very, very cautiously.
There’s no doubt that right-wing HSR denialism has a proven track record of getting their talking points into the media, even when the evidence contradicts their assertions. A good example is Liam Julian’s op-ed in the SF Chronicle last week. Julian is a fellow at the right-wing Hoover Institution, based at Stanford University, and like his fellow right-wing think tank fellows at the Cato Institute and the Reason Foundation, Julian is a strident opponent of HSR:
First, no one knows how much it will cost. New numbers put the price of the Anaheim-to-San Francisco segment alone at $42.6 billion. California expects to receive about $18 billion from the federal government; so far, Washington has donated $2.3 billion. The state also expects to receive $12 billion from private investors, but the rail authority has provided scant evidence that it can raise that amount.
Aside from the the self-contradictory nature of this quote (if the CHSRA has an estimate, then it’s not accurate to say “no one knows how much it will cost” is it?!), Julian is just plain wrong to imply that private funding isn’t going to materialize. RFF, the French track owner, recently awarded a build-operate-maintain contract to VINCI, a private company that will contribute €3.6 billion euro (roughly $5 billion) in capital to complete the LGV Sud Europe Atlantique, with the French government picking up the other half of the cost.
Julian’s argument was further undermined in the same newspaper by Oliver Hauck, president of Siemens’ USA division:
Private companies, including rail technology suppliers like my own, are willing to accept some of the risk inherent in financing this major upgrade to the American transportation system.
Given the current economic realities, is there an appetite out there to fund high-speed rail? We think there is.
So what is the best format to minimize risk for all concerned and guarantee that projects are delivered on-time and on-budget?
We believe the government should seriously consider public-private-partnerships), typically a concession agreement of 30 to 35 years whereby the government partners with the private sector and allows them to supply infrastructure assets and services traditionally provided by the government.
Nowhere in Hauck’s op-ed is there any mention of a revenue or ridership guarantee. Hauck implies that one isn’t necessary to attract private investment, and in fact states that one of the benefits is that “private companies are willing to accept some of the risk.”
The SF Chronicle also ran an op-ed by CHSRA Chairman Curt Pringle, which did not break new ground but elicited a frothing-at-the-mouth reaction by yet another wingnut, the San Diego Union-Tribune’s Chris Reed, who denounced Pringle on the issue of private funding:
No, Mr. Mayor, these aren’t the two main elements of the “discussion” now going on. Instead, the “discussion” is focusing on the fact the California High-Speed Rail Authority has an illegal business plan that would require future taxpayer subsidies.
Yo, Curt! Can’t you ever address that forthrightly? Please?…
After Pringle downplayed this problem in an e-mail to me, I went directly to Legislative Analyst Mac Taylor, who said the revenue guarantee “did seem to be in direct violation” of the no-subsidy promise. Taylor was also highly skeptical of the idea that a ridership guarantee could be substituted for a revenue guarantee.
I’ve never been a fan of the ridership guarantee notion, and think it has no place in the business plan. But what Reed is implying is that without such guarantees, no private backer would be interested in funding the project. Yet Siemens, in the form of Hauck’s op-ed, is actually saying “we will take on the risk” and made no mention of any ridership guarantee. If they don’t feel it’s important enough to mention in the op-ed, then it is safe to conclude from that and from their willingness to assume risk that no revenue guarantee is needed for at least Siemens to get involved in funding the project.
Put that together with the RFF/VINCI contract and it seems pretty damn obvious that the “private funding won’t materialize” argument is baseless speculation. But what happens when the funding does show up?
As Yonah Freemark points out at The Transport Politic, private funding brings considerable risks to the public:
In both Taiwan and the United Kingdom, private infrastructure firms managing the construction of new high-speed lines have gone broke because of their reliance on loans taken out at high rates, leaving the taxpayer to foot the bill on both line construction and loan back-payments. All the “creativity” in the world bulging from the minds of entrepreneurs didn’t save the people of either of those countries any money compared to what they would have gotten from a fully public operation. In each of those cases, the “risk” supposedly assumed by private corporations was dumped back onto the public sector because you don’t put billions of dollars in a high-speed rail program and then simply throw it away when private funds evaporate.
At least you shouldn’t.
It could be argued that governmental entities can manage infrastructure funding more effectively because they’re able to take out loans at much lower interest rates. This power could be expanded if the U.S. Congress establishes a national infrastructure bank, as has been recently suggested. A fully public operation would allow taxpayers to get some of their investment back through operational revenues; by contracting out a PPP, those profits will all go into the hands of corporations and their shareholders.
It’s worth going into some more detail on the Taiwanese example, since that unfolded in the last year or two. Taiwan’s HSR system met its ridership projections, though it took a year or two to get there. In his seminal Puente AVE article, DoDo explained why Taiwan’s successful HSR system did not translate into a successful PPP project:
For the THSR, cost overruns were largely the consequence of a switch to Japanese suppliers after planning based on European high-speed technology was already well-advanced. The decision was widely rumoured to have been political (and led to an epic political, media and court battle ending in damage payments to Eurotrain), and the overseeing company THSRC did not go with the actual Japanese offer, but stuck to its guns on specifications. Thus f.e. a German maker had to be contracted to supply fixed-track high-speed switches (no need for those on Shinkansen lines with their strictly single-direction tracks).
Likewise, both lines were opened half-finished: one-third of the Seoul-Busan KTX line was delayed (until 2011, now thanks to those sleepers maybe even further), THSRC started with a reduced schedule, both started with some stations unfinished (for the THSR, including both downtown terminuses!) or without urban transit connections. Also, both lines started with hefty ticket prices that had to be reduced later.
And yet Taiwan HSR had begun to overcome these problems:
The failure to meet expectations after the start was widely discussed as a national scandal in both countries. However, you can also see on the graphs that there was steady growth thereafter. And that at the expense of other modes of transport.
The modal shift was particularly spectacular in Taiwan. In just 20 months, all but one single daily flight between the cities served by THSRC was eliminated (last December, THSRC’s share of the air/rail market was 99.95%…), leaving the highway as only competition. Total domestic air passenger transport fell almost by half(!). The steady uninterrupted annual growth of highway traffic was not only stopped but turned back.
In short, Taiwan HSR is a successful project in terms of ridership and achieving many of its goals of shifting transportation modes. The problem with Taiwan HSR is largely with the method used to finance it – heavy private sector borrowing. The 80% private funding method left Taiwan HSR financially vulnerable to poor construction decisions, cost overruns, and the global recession.
Back at The Transport Politic, Freemark argues that private funding could work out for California HSR, but only if it avoids these pitfalls and uses private funding in sensible ways that don’t turn out to be a giveaway of public sector resources to private interests:
But prioritizing profits has many negative side-effects apart from the loss of generalized mobility made possible with low fares: those twenty million potential riders unwilling to pay big money to ride the system will choose air and road alternatives instead of the train and produce increasing congestion and air pollution. Is that an acceptable trade-off?
Nevertheless, if managed correctly, a public-private partnership on the scale of what California is suggesting could be implemented without many negative consequences, especially if the role of the for-profit side of the equation is limited as much as possible. Facing enormous debt trouble, California has little maneuvering room to increase its bonding capacity beyond the $10 billion already committed to the project; meanwhile, the corridor is competing with projects across the country for very limited federal funds.
Getting the PPP process right, though, is vitally important.
A potential compromise would be to focus private involvement on the real estate side of the equation. The residents of California are wealthy, and the state could make billions by selling off development rights for land surrounding stations. Limited private investment in the line itself could mean a diversion of some, but not all, profit away from the public sector, leaving room to fulfill non-profit-oriented goals.
This makes a great deal of sense. The primary purpose of California HSR must be to provide affordable, fast intercity passenger rail service – not to put money into the pockets of corporations and investors. If the latter can be achieved as a side effect of a successful mass transit system, fine, but it ought not be the primary objective.
Typically, HSR deniers aren’t focused on this part of the discussion at all. They’re too busy trying to convince people that HSR is a bad idea by ignoring or cherry-picking the global evidence and not zeroing in on the more useful debate about how to build HSR effectively. Tomorrow, we’ll take a look at what happens when these misleading HSR denier ideas get spun by a credulous and inexperienced reporter.

Art Leahy was diplomatic in his joint letter to the CHSRA, but he sounded a lot angrier in person.
http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-train4-2010apr04,0,226389.story
“”We are big-time unhappy with the conduct of the high-speed authority,” Leahy told the officials who oversee the Los Angeles-to-San Diego train corridor.
“I really can’t understand their approach,” he said. “In many cases they’ve ridden roughshod over the host of cities in Orange County and in Los Angeles. They have ignored input and there are assumptions that are just astonishing.”
Among other things, Leahy questioned designing the system to run trains every five minutes. “That’s extraordinary,” he said. And widening the corridor to add dedicated bullet train tracks could require taking out hundreds of homes in Anaheim alone, he noted. “I mean, just crazy stuff,” he said, according to a recording of the session obtained by The Times.
If the planning process does not become more rational, Leahy warned, “I don’t think there is going to be a project.”"
Five or ten homes, fine. I went through the alternative analysis and labled the impacts here. But hundreds of homes for LA-Anaheim? Doesn’t seem worth it. There could be 110 MPH Metrolink and Amtrak service relatively soon with less costly upgrades.
Robert Cruickshank Reply:
April 4th, 2010 at 8:57 pm
The issue is what actually is meant by “less costly upgrades.” It would be a waste if those upgrades bottlenecked HSR in the future.
Ultimately we are building a significantly upgraded passenger rail network for the rest of the century. Making a few upgrades to the LA-Anaheim corridor might seem sensible given present ridership levels, but the goal here is to make much higher ridership levels possible.
Rail advocates may disagree on the details of how to do this corridor, and that’s fine, but there needs to be unity on the issue of getting more federal funding. That is really what matters.
Alon Levy Reply:
April 5th, 2010 at 4:34 am
Metrolink isn’t trying to make much higher ridership levels possible, and neither is CAHSR. The corridor is low-speed enough that grade crossings should be acceptable initially, and low-density enough that there’s no need to have tunnels.
Even on implausibly high estimates of future LA-Anaheim train traffic – say, 6 tph for HSR and 12 tph for Metrolink – it’s easy to handle everything on two tracks with a few passing sidings. The only difference between that and the HSR-in-tunnel-with-Metrolink-at-grade solution is that it allows express Metrolink trains to share HSR infrastructure.
Joey Reply:
April 5th, 2010 at 10:02 am
I don’t think they are designing to allow any crossings between the HSR and Metrolink tracks.
jimsf Reply:
April 5th, 2010 at 9:27 am
Maybe they should have turned east at laus and instead of la-ana, done la-riverside. Ill bet you they’d get a lot more ridership from the 10 and 60 corridor than the 5 corridor.
Joey Reply:
April 5th, 2010 at 10:02 am
Or even turned West and gone to LAX.
AndyDuncan Reply:
April 5th, 2010 at 10:11 am
Ill bet you they’d get a lot more ridership from the 10 and 60 corridor than the 5 corridor.”
Not even close. The anaheim extension serves far more people than the eastside extension.
Joey’s idea of turning towards LAX isn’t necessarily bad. There’s a ROW from the Redondo Junction to LAX and down through the south bay to long beach. Metro is trying to figure out what to do with it, I’m seriously hoping they throw electrified, CHSRA-compatible commuter rail on it. That would give you direct access to downtown long beach and would allow LAX to transition to a purely long-distance hub. It seems likely, however, that Metro will end up putting light rail on it.
Alon Levy Reply:
April 5th, 2010 at 3:18 pm
The Redondo-LAX-LB route would be way too circuitous to be useful; the Blue Line is actually a good way of getting between downtown LA and LB. A commuter line from downtown LA to LAX with some HSR through-service would be great, and so would a southward extension of a future Sepulveda line down to LB, but there’s no need to make those two compatible. It’s more important to make the LB-LAX line compatible with whatever goes up to the Westside.
AndyDuncan Reply:
April 5th, 2010 at 4:28 pm
I’m imagining (possibly with the help of heavy non-prescription pharmaceuticals) a future where Metrolink is running HSR-compatible rolling stock on CHSRA lines and has started building out electrified extensions.
The LB-LAX-DTLA line up the Harbor Corridor would take about half the time that the Blue Line does even with the circuitous route, but mainly it would be about single-seat rides to/from LB.
I’m not sure the LAX to DTLA line would make sense by itself. We all know how well airport connections do, and why build a terminal station at LAX anyway? Just have the trains continue down to LB.
You’re absolutely right, however, that the line should be compatible with whatever goes up and over the 405. I’m dreaming of something like this (map).
It would seem to make sense for Metrolink’s future to be HSR compatible. If you do that, then it makes sense to just let the CHSRA trains run through to LAX and LB.
Spokker Reply:
April 5th, 2010 at 5:55 pm
Harbor sub is taken by metro. That’s going to be local transit, not hsr.
Nathanael Reply:
April 5th, 2010 at 6:00 pm
Given the route, it makes more sense for it to be Metrolink. There are already going to be sufficienly many closely-spaced-station lines in the area — a widely-spaced-station line, however, would be worth it.
And of course Metrolink should electrify and buy EMUS. On the track it owns outright, I really don’t see why it hasn’t considered it already.
AndyDuncan Reply:
April 5th, 2010 at 6:07 pm
Yeah and it looks like they’re going to put LRT on it. They were looking at a metrolink option for it. What I’m saying is that they could put metrolink on it, but electrified, non-FRA-compliant metrolink that HSR could run along.
I don’t think it’s that crazy.
Spokker Reply:
April 5th, 2010 at 7:03 pm
It’s not crazy, but that’s not the way it’s going. I would say that putting LRT in that corridor isn’t a bad thing, either.
Alon Levy Reply:
April 5th, 2010 at 6:03 pm
The LAUS-LAX route is important not just for the airport connection – the airport is just a convenient anchor at the outer end. It would provide northeast-southwest service to the neighborhoods in between.
One-seat rides aren’t that important. It’s understood that most people will take some sort of transportation to the HSR station. It’s more important to get local transit up to speed.
If we’re doing fantasy map, then we might as well go all the way and also look at subway extensions (black lines are commuter rail, colored lines with stops labeled are rapid transit, colored lines without stops labeled are light rail). No harbor line there, I know, and a lot to criticize… but that’s an entirely different discussion.
thatbruce Reply:
April 5th, 2010 at 6:25 pm
‘Westside’ == Crenshaw/LAX corridor ( http://www.metro.net/projects/crenshaw_corridor/ ), which overlaps the Harbor sub (DTLA LAX Port of Long Beach) for ~3 miles north of LAX to Crenshaw Blvd. Compatibility with this section and the existing Green Line will be what dictates the type of equipment used on the Harbor sub.
Ignoring that section, putting CAHSR-compatible stock along that route to terminate at Long Beach, the city, is a bit silly. It would be better to ignore Long Beach City in lieu of Long Beach Airport, and then continue eastwards along another ROW to pick up the ARTIC station in Anaheim (and incidentally Disneyland/Anaheim Conference Center); DTLA LAX Blue Line Long Beach Airport Anaheim/Disneyland Anaheim ARTIC, followed by an eventual continuation to Irvine and connections to John Wayne Airport.
Done well, integrated Airport/Train connections are beneficial to both forms of transport. Most of the examples in California at least, aren’t done particularly well.
AndyDuncan Reply:
April 5th, 2010 at 6:36 pm
So then people could travel from airport to airport to airport? Why? I understand the (limited) utility in connecting airports to downtowns via HSR, but nobody is going to fly into LAX, hop on HSR, and fly out of Long Beach. HSR could be effective as a last-leg, and could be particularly effective at reducing short-hop flights out of LAX, but not as people mover between airports.
Downtown Long Beach is a large employment center and it’s an hour from DTLA on the Blue Line. Cutting that by 30 minutes makes HSR much more attractive, whether it’s a one-seat ride or not. The south bay is less populated, but still dense and even more disconnected from DTLA.
The idea is HSR-compliant metrolink connecting DTLA and the 405 corridor. That’s the biscuit. The HSR through-running is just the gravy.
Alon Levy Reply:
April 5th, 2010 at 8:53 pm
No. HSR-airport connections work well only when the airport has significant long-distance traffic. The airport in SoCal that could use the HSR connection is LAX. Ontario might, but only if the HSR station is planned in conjunction with a massive expansion in long-distance operations.
“I’ve never been a fan of the ridership guarantee notion, and think it has no place in the business plan.”
Thank you, Robert!
I think an interesting note to add here is that Siemens is one of the contestants to be in the PPP with the East corridor line in Denver that is being built. If they win, and IF the FRA changes some rules in the near future (which with the current administration may be likely), Denver could have European style EMU units traveling at 125 mph from the airport to downtown with Siemens on board running it.
I question what company would really want to make significant investments (beyond the benefits that they receive from supplying materials) in an American state that is about as well run as Greece.
And if they did want to invest on what terms would they do so? Keep in mind that people in private business are far less stupid than the politicians they would be negotiating with. The private companies will set up so many safeguards that if anything goes wrong it will be the citizens and taxpayers that will lose, not the investors. I would count on that.
Ah, yes, the “the cost is now up to $43 billion” canard… strictly true, except that in year-of-construction dollars it’s always been about $43 billion.
For info on the RFF-Vinci contract you have details (in English) in
this Business Week article
In france, the experience with build-operate-and-maintain contracts has been quite positive. Most intercity highways were built, and are operated, by multinationals like Vinci and Bouygues.
One of the advantages is that there are no cost overruns and no delays. The company’s interest is to avoid waste and start operating as soon as possible.
Of course, the detractors always cite the UK as proof that the system doesn’t work.
John Major butchered British Rail into more than 100 unmanageable companies. Maintenance work was carried out by sub-sub-sub-contractors so that for every incident (and there were many) it took months to try and find out who was responsible and what had to be done.
A new bureaucracy had to be created to oversee all that mess, and it has proved more costly and less efficient than the original BR centralised management. And something invaluable also died in the process: British Rail company pride.
No economy of scale is now possible. While DB and SNCF order trains by the hundreds, British companies get them by the half-dozen from leasing firms which, of course, take their bite. The result is that Britain has the worst rail system and the highest fares in Europe. The only people happy with it are the middlemen, the lawyer firms and City bankers. It’s a gold mine for them.
As regards PPP, the UK system is the exception that proves the rule.
The whole reason CHSRA has proposed revenue guarantee was they could not get sufficient private market interest to lend money against future profits without one. Various suppliers may take a limited amount of risk on their profit margins, but this does not add up to the amount of money required.
The other reason why private firms are balking is that the route and probably key schedule decisions are subject to a highly political process, not the best formula for maximizing profits.
Peter Reply:
April 5th, 2010 at 9:19 am
What private firms are balking? They haven’t even put out a Request for Qualifications to build anything, much less asked anyone for money.
Elizabeth Reply:
April 5th, 2010 at 10:40 am
They have been “requests for information” or somesuch over the last couple of years with the private sector. I myself ran some numbers and came to the conclusion that this deal is not doable with nonrecourse debt. Even with the “happy” numbers, there is insufficient interest coverage given the risk.
David Crane, the one member of the board with serious infrastructure finance experience, has stated repeatedly in meetings that no one should be counting on private financing for phase 1.
I’m not sure why this persists as a concept. Oh yeah – it is still a critical part of the biz plan.
Andre Peretti Reply:
April 5th, 2010 at 11:29 am
Until the route details are clearly defined no firm will bid for “build and operate”.
jimsf Reply:
April 5th, 2010 at 9:24 am
First I don’t think this should be a public private partnership to begin with. It should be a state transportation project just like the state highways and water projects. That said, I would disagree that the route and schedules are not the best, because they are “politicized” To call something “politicized” is to try to paint it with some sort of negative brush when in fact, politics, has everything to do with each community on the local level making sure they get the service they want. Hsr is not going to the places that don’t want it for the most part ( far northern cali voted against it as well as much of the north and south coasts.0 meanwhile the central valley cities voted for it and will get it. So it makes sense that the route decisions are to put the train where its wanted for vast majority of the route. ( atherton/pa excepted of course)
As has been discussed here many times. an i five route for instance would be a waste of money as it wouldn’t benefit anyone. The route connects all of californias cities in the 500k range, the top 10 or so, if you will. and strings them along a connected route. A private operator looking for profit would also want to get those people on board or risk running empty trains.
tomh Reply:
April 5th, 2010 at 12:49 pm
Actually, didn’t the majority of voters in Atheron, Palo Alto, etc. vote for Prop 1A?
Peter Reply:
April 5th, 2010 at 12:55 pm
I believe they did, by a large margin.
Alon Levy Reply:
April 5th, 2010 at 3:19 pm
Every town along the Caltrain corridor voted for 1A, except Atherton.
Nadia Reply:
April 5th, 2010 at 1:11 pm
You might be interested in the audio for this Operations Committee Meeting held last month (it was only posted last week):
http://www.cahighspeedrail.ca.gov/images/chsr/20100326152249_March_3_Operations_Committee.mp3
You’ll hear Diridon lay into Tony Daniels about how decisions on the AA get made – (referring to the tunnel option for SJ that was eliminated and then reappeared). He tells him clearly – the decisions are political and the Board will make them – not the engineers or the FRA.
Among other things – this meeting also discusses the hole in Outreach south of San Francisco – and how this is a problem – especially since the AA is coming out.
They also discuss the confusion around the various deadlines…
Ogilvy’s Christi Black also talks about he need to gear up supporters again. She says something along the lines of… “We will look for surrogates to speak for you. We’re mindful that we can’t advocate with State funding – but they can advocate – given facts and so that’s what we’ll do. ” They then talk about Calpirg and others – I’m assuming Robert was on their minds…
Peter Reply:
April 5th, 2010 at 1:18 pm
Well, yes, such decisions are obviously political. The EIR/EIS process is meant to inform the executive and legislative branches of the technical and environmental issues so that they can make a political decision how to proceed. It’s not some magical tool that resolves all issues based on completely neutral technical review, because such a procedure would be
Forgive me, I’m right now writing a paper on NEPA, and discussing the purposes of an EIS.
Robert Cruickshank Reply:
April 5th, 2010 at 3:59 pm
All of these decisions are political. The decision about where to build the interstates was political. Obviously those decisions are highly influenced by the advice of engineers and planners, who can advise on what is feasible and what is not feasible, but in a democracy these kinds of decisions are necessarily – and properly – subject to a political process.
Off topic – did anyone else see this on the design issues for the Transbay Terminal?
http://www.cahighspeedrail.ca.gov/images/chsr/20100402140158_Agenda%20Item%207%20%20Board%20Briefing%20ATTACHMENTS.pdf
Brandon from San Diego Reply:
April 5th, 2010 at 6:53 pm
That’s poorly worded memo. The writer may know English only as a second language.
Concerning end stop.. limited train speed to 3-5mph! That is walking speed. Gawd.. for how long a distance…. and how much time does that cost? Assuming that that is for the entire entry into the station, 1,350 feet (+/-), that will coincidentally take 3 to 5 minutes. … to go 1,350 feet. High speed? Big joke!
Joey Reply:
April 5th, 2010 at 6:58 pm
I doubt it would be for the entire station length. If you’ve ever been to the SFO BART station, you may notice the trains traveling at a excruciatingly slow pace for the last several meters (probably for safety reasons). I’d imagine the HSR situation would be something like that.
Brandon from San Diego Reply:
April 5th, 2010 at 8:01 pm
Yes, I have been on that ride. Others elsewhere are like it. It’s because there are no tracks beyond the station… which would allow extra braking distance in case of an over-shoot.
The interesting thing… assuming the system really needs to adhear to AB3034 and be designed for 5 minute spacing between trains, as soon as one train comes to a stop, a following train needs to be capable of entering the station… almost immediately. Or, on final approach.. that means one train is very closely followed by a second train… albeit at very low speed.
In this Financial Times article
JR accuses the Chinese of exporting stolen technology in harsher terms than Alstom last year. It even accuses them of overclocking their trains as safety is the least of their worries.
The article also hints that Siemens was bribed into joining the Chinese Railways bid for the Saudi HSR at the last minute, after dropping its own bid. It’s clear the Chinese wanted to add the German firm’s name for credibility. The Japanese have the courage to say publicly what the French only say privately: Siemens is a traitor.
Alon Levy Reply:
April 5th, 2010 at 3:20 pm
How do the Japanese think they got all this technology?
Andre Peretti Reply:
April 5th, 2010 at 4:31 pm
Well, if you read the article, JR’s chief recognizes that Kawasaki worked with the Chinese just like the other big three. What seems to upset him is the fact that some trainmakers (Bombardier, Siemens) continued to cooperate with the Chinese even after it was clear they would not respect the not-for-export clause of the contracts. Siemens turning its coat at the last minute in Saudi Arabia must be especially shocking for a Japanese. It’s the sort of thing the Japanese don’t do.
Alon Levy Reply:
April 5th, 2010 at 9:16 pm
Meh. It sounds like the same condescension that Japan endured until the 1990s. For example: Kasai’s evidence that China doesn’t care about safety is that it runs trains at full speed. You’d think that he’d mention that JR is running 300 km/h trains at higher cant deficiencies than anywhere else, or that the only reason JR East is upgrading to 320 km/h and not 360 is tunnel boom and other noise concerns.
I’m sorry, if you use my link the FT hides the article and asks you to register.
You can access the article directly (nothing asked) by googling:
“japanese rail chief attacks” (NEWS)