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		<title>By: dejv</title>
		<link>http://www.cahsrblog.com/2010/04/caltrains-crisis-is-real/comment-page-1/#comment-75375</link>
		<dc:creator>dejv</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Apr 2010 17:18:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, they use mainly coal now, but they build dams at similar speed to HSR construction and filling all that reservoirs takes some time even when they &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/environment/2010-04-21-china-dam_N.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;block&lt;/a&gt; nearly all the water of mighty Himalaya rivers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, they use mainly coal now, but they build dams at similar speed to HSR construction and filling all that reservoirs takes some time even when they <a href="http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/environment/2010-04-21-china-dam_N.htm" rel="nofollow">block</a> nearly all the water of mighty Himalaya rivers.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Apr 2010 16:02:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;hydropower to feed the trains&quot;

IIRC, China mainly uses coal, and they are building 100 new nuclear power plants in the next 10 years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;hydropower to feed the trains&#8221;</p>
<p>IIRC, China mainly uses coal, and they are building 100 new nuclear power plants in the next 10 years.</p>
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		<title>By: dejv</title>
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		<dc:creator>dejv</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Apr 2010 14:59:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;BTW 400kmh is a an utterly insane fantasy, from every point of view.
The energy intensiveness of such travel cannot and SHOULD NOT be borne by the world, regardless of the pointy-nosed rushing into deep tunnels fantasies of train fans.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Governments and companies don&#039;t generally take care of arguments like &quot;SHOULD NOT&quot;. IMO, China will be the first to push that limit because they have long distances to convert such high speed to real travel time savings, hydropower to feed the trains and premium pricing of HS trains to pay the bills for energy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>BTW 400kmh is a an utterly insane fantasy, from every point of view.<br />
The energy intensiveness of such travel cannot and SHOULD NOT be borne by the world, regardless of the pointy-nosed rushing into deep tunnels fantasies of train fans.</p></blockquote>
<p>Governments and companies don&#8217;t generally take care of arguments like &#8220;SHOULD NOT&#8221;. IMO, China will be the first to push that limit because they have long distances to convert such high speed to real travel time savings, hydropower to feed the trains and premium pricing of HS trains to pay the bills for energy.</p>
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		<title>By: dejv</title>
		<link>http://www.cahsrblog.com/2010/04/caltrains-crisis-is-real/comment-page-1/#comment-75349</link>
		<dc:creator>dejv</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Apr 2010 08:31:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;However, practically nobody likes ballasted bridges/viaducts/tunnels/trenches any more, and I have to agree with them; the ecological benefit is close to nil given required concrete structure, and the maintenance is a lot higher.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Once again incorrect. Modern trend is to stick with the technology that surrounds bridges and other structures. Ballastless sections in the middle of ballasted ones are maintenance nightmares and limit safe cant deficiency.

BTW ballasted track is actually the technology for steel bridges these days because weight and elasticity damp noise and vibrations very well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>However, practically nobody likes ballasted bridges/viaducts/tunnels/trenches any more, and I have to agree with them; the ecological benefit is close to nil given required concrete structure, and the maintenance is a lot higher.</p></blockquote>
<p>Once again incorrect. Modern trend is to stick with the technology that surrounds bridges and other structures. Ballastless sections in the middle of ballasted ones are maintenance nightmares and limit safe cant deficiency.</p>
<p>BTW ballasted track is actually the technology for steel bridges these days because weight and elasticity damp noise and vibrations very well.</p>
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		<title>By: AndyDuncan</title>
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		<dc:creator>AndyDuncan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Apr 2010 20:37:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;&lt;i&gt;I don’t know what Taiwan does.&lt;/i&gt;&quot;

The THSR line is all slab.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;<i>I don’t know what Taiwan does.</i>&#8221;</p>
<p>The THSR line is all slab.</p>
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		<title>By: Alon Levy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alon Levy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Apr 2010 19:26:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The new trains stay in 4-car or 5-car sets, usually. The old ones were married pairs. I don&#039;t think any is a 10-car unit the way JR East&#039;s equipment is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The new trains stay in 4-car or 5-car sets, usually. The old ones were married pairs. I don&#8217;t think any is a 10-car unit the way JR East&#8217;s equipment is.</p>
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		<title>By: jimsf</title>
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		<dc:creator>jimsf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Apr 2010 18:48:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>well the california trains  generally stay in their sets,  but when a car does have to be taken out of service  ( usually the maintenance can be done while the train is in the yard during its natural out of service time)  then  they can pull a car out and sub a different one for instance, when need be.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well the california trains  generally stay in their sets,  but when a car does have to be taken out of service  ( usually the maintenance can be done while the train is in the yard during its natural out of service time)  then  they can pull a car out and sub a different one for instance, when need be.</p>
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		<title>By: adirondacker12800</title>
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		<dc:creator>adirondacker12800</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Apr 2010 18:33:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Even on the NYC Subway. Most of the time the trains operate in sets. There isn&#039;t a whole lot of cars being shuffled around as individual cars.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Even on the NYC Subway. Most of the time the trains operate in sets. There isn&#8217;t a whole lot of cars being shuffled around as individual cars.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Mlynarik</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard Mlynarik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Apr 2010 15:51:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;... common TBMs on the market ...&lt;/blockquote&gt;
There is no such thing.

BTW 400kmh is a an utterly insane fantasy, from every point of view.
The energy intensiveness of such travel cannot and SHOULD NOT be borne by the world, regardless of the pointy-nosed rushing into deep tunnels fantasies of train fans.

In the medium to long term I doubt that &gt; circa 320kmh commercial speed will be sustained.  Technically feasible isn&#039;t the same as desirable, after all.  Where are my moon shuttle, personal helicopter and jet pack anyway?

But of course from the contractor&#039;s point of view, self-specifying and then being obliged to design and build to an out of this world 400kmh &quot;requirement&quot; has the immense advantage of increasing construction costs significantly.   Just like their over-the-top stations, where maximizing construction budget and actively inhibiting efficient operations are the rules of their game.  It&#039;s not as if they care about operating an efficient modern rail network anyway -- somebody else (one guess, hardy California taxpayers!) will be left holding that bag, as usual.

&quot;&#039;Once the rockets are up, who cares where they come down? That&#039;s not my department&#039;, says Wernher von Braun.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>&#8230; common TBMs on the market &#8230;</p></blockquote>
<p>There is no such thing.</p>
<p>BTW 400kmh is a an utterly insane fantasy, from every point of view.<br />
The energy intensiveness of such travel cannot and SHOULD NOT be borne by the world, regardless of the pointy-nosed rushing into deep tunnels fantasies of train fans.</p>
<p>In the medium to long term I doubt that &gt; circa 320kmh commercial speed will be sustained.  Technically feasible isn&#8217;t the same as desirable, after all.  Where are my moon shuttle, personal helicopter and jet pack anyway?</p>
<p>But of course from the contractor&#8217;s point of view, self-specifying and then being obliged to design and build to an out of this world 400kmh &#8220;requirement&#8221; has the immense advantage of increasing construction costs significantly.   Just like their over-the-top stations, where maximizing construction budget and actively inhibiting efficient operations are the rules of their game.  It&#8217;s not as if they care about operating an efficient modern rail network anyway &#8212; somebody else (one guess, hardy California taxpayers!) will be left holding that bag, as usual.</p>
<p>&#8220;&#8216;Once the rockets are up, who cares where they come down? That&#8217;s not my department&#8217;, says Wernher von Braun.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Mlynarik</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard Mlynarik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Apr 2010 15:38:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pretty much every modern passenger train is maintained as a unit.  The days of shunting lots of stuff around all the time, whether in stations, yards, or maintenance depots, are past.  (At least in advanced industrialized first world democracies.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pretty much every modern passenger train is maintained as a unit.  The days of shunting lots of stuff around all the time, whether in stations, yards, or maintenance depots, are past.  (At least in advanced industrialized first world democracies.)</p>
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