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	<title>Comments on: February CHSRA Board Meeting Open Thread</title>
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		<title>By: Alon Levy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alon Levy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Feb 2010 21:32:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Or they can just convert the US into a third world country. It&#039;s easier and they can keep living in the same gated communities they know and love.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Or they can just convert the US into a third world country. It&#8217;s easier and they can keep living in the same gated communities they know and love.</p>
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		<title>By: Joey</title>
		<link>http://www.cahsrblog.com/2010/02/february-chsra-board-meeting-open-thread/comment-page-1/#comment-69280</link>
		<dc:creator>Joey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Feb 2010 19:04:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>*shrug*

Lawsuits will happen one way or another.  It&#039;s part of the process for such a big project, but in the end they probably won&#039;t affect whether or not it gets built.  By the way, why can&#039;t you just let this whole Altamont vs Pacheco thing DIE?  I would have been fine with either, but the decision was made more than a year ago (even before 1A was passed), and it seems like the only people who are still beating this dead horse are skeptics, deniers, and peninsula NIMBYs.  Can we maybe choose some more current issues to discuss?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>*shrug*</p>
<p>Lawsuits will happen one way or another.  It&#8217;s part of the process for such a big project, but in the end they probably won&#8217;t affect whether or not it gets built.  By the way, why can&#8217;t you just let this whole Altamont vs Pacheco thing DIE?  I would have been fine with either, but the decision was made more than a year ago (even before 1A was passed), and it seems like the only people who are still beating this dead horse are skeptics, deniers, and peninsula NIMBYs.  Can we maybe choose some more current issues to discuss?</p>
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		<title>By: Observer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Observer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Feb 2010 18:49:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interestng that they&#039;re providing design alternatives when they don&#039;t even have an environemental impact report or a preferred alignment (both of which were rescinded in December).

The ridership models we hear now were sketchy,  looks like they cooked the Pacheco versus Altamont numbers, they ignored their own updated versions, they switched models for different data presentations without dislcosing the updating info,   and some other INTEGRITY issues  which means it doesn&#039;t look like a new Program EIR is a simple matter of cut and paste from their old version (as many proponents insist)..  Their previous supporting data for the EIR is pretty much trash..     And that means the preferred route is not a given.

(Robert says he doesnt think CARRDs findings are all that important because the end numbers seem kinda about right.   Robert doesn&#039;t realize that the lack of auditability of the process call in to question the integrity of the end result, (not to mention the integrity of the CHSRA),  which will result in a redo (best case).  

If the CHSRA at this point tries to certify a new EIR based on this ridership data - they&#039;re just BEGGING for lawsuits.    Not to mention the fact that  politicians like Presidents, and Senators and Governors,  kinda tend to look unfavorably on ameteurish CHEATERS that might bring their political careers down too.    There&#039;s just a tad bit of high visibility cash on the line for CHSRA. 

Think they&#039;re jumping the gun just a tad here on their design alternatives presentation...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interestng that they&#8217;re providing design alternatives when they don&#8217;t even have an environemental impact report or a preferred alignment (both of which were rescinded in December).</p>
<p>The ridership models we hear now were sketchy,  looks like they cooked the Pacheco versus Altamont numbers, they ignored their own updated versions, they switched models for different data presentations without dislcosing the updating info,   and some other INTEGRITY issues  which means it doesn&#8217;t look like a new Program EIR is a simple matter of cut and paste from their old version (as many proponents insist)..  Their previous supporting data for the EIR is pretty much trash..     And that means the preferred route is not a given.</p>
<p>(Robert says he doesnt think CARRDs findings are all that important because the end numbers seem kinda about right.   Robert doesn&#8217;t realize that the lack of auditability of the process call in to question the integrity of the end result, (not to mention the integrity of the CHSRA),  which will result in a redo (best case).  </p>
<p>If the CHSRA at this point tries to certify a new EIR based on this ridership data &#8211; they&#8217;re just BEGGING for lawsuits.    Not to mention the fact that  politicians like Presidents, and Senators and Governors,  kinda tend to look unfavorably on ameteurish CHEATERS that might bring their political careers down too.    There&#8217;s just a tad bit of high visibility cash on the line for CHSRA. </p>
<p>Think they&#8217;re jumping the gun just a tad here on their design alternatives presentation&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: jimsf</title>
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		<dc:creator>jimsf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Feb 2010 18:14:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.mercurynews.com/breaking-news/ci_14344672&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Palo Altans to get sneak peek at high-speed rail designs&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.mercurynews.com/breaking-news/ci_14344672" rel="nofollow">Palo Altans to get sneak peek at high-speed rail designs</a></p>
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		<title>By: jimsf</title>
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		<dc:creator>jimsf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Feb 2010 00:43:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whitman would be completely unable to work with the state legislature to get anything done.  Her term would a be another failure.    Cali works when you get someone in there who knows how to navigate sacramento.   Go in trying to &quot;blow up boxes&quot; and you&#039;ll be handed your ass in a said box.  No  you know who we really need,   willie brown.  now there is someone who knows how to get things done.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whitman would be completely unable to work with the state legislature to get anything done.  Her term would a be another failure.    Cali works when you get someone in there who knows how to navigate sacramento.   Go in trying to &#8220;blow up boxes&#8221; and you&#8217;ll be handed your ass in a said box.  No  you know who we really need,   willie brown.  now there is someone who knows how to get things done.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Feb 2010 00:39:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Flame out, Altamont and/or Grapevine cultists.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Flame out, Altamont and/or Grapevine cultists.</p>
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		<title>By: spokker</title>
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		<dc:creator>spokker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Feb 2010 00:38:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think all of these businesses should move their operations to a third world country so they won&#039;t have to pay their employees anything, care about the environment, or even refrain from caning their employees if they do wrong.

I mean, those are the ultimate savings right there. Some businesses move just because they want to pollute more. Well, see ya.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think all of these businesses should move their operations to a third world country so they won&#8217;t have to pay their employees anything, care about the environment, or even refrain from caning their employees if they do wrong.</p>
<p>I mean, those are the ultimate savings right there. Some businesses move just because they want to pollute more. Well, see ya.</p>
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		<title>By: jimsf</title>
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		<dc:creator>jimsf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Feb 2010 00:36:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And even if she did win,  she wouldn&#039;t be given an inch of wiggle room to do anything.  No, Californians have consistently said no to &quot;outsider I owe no one&quot;  millionaires.  Arnold was the  &quot;scott brown&quot; exception already and he  only won because of people in the central valley were starstruck.

and synonomouse,   there isnt going to be an i-5 route.  and the governor, any governor,  doesn&#039;t have the authority to change the route anyway.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And even if she did win,  she wouldn&#8217;t be given an inch of wiggle room to do anything.  No, Californians have consistently said no to &#8220;outsider I owe no one&#8221;  millionaires.  Arnold was the  &#8220;scott brown&#8221; exception already and he  only won because of people in the central valley were starstruck.</p>
<p>and synonomouse,   there isnt going to be an i-5 route.  and the governor, any governor,  doesn&#8217;t have the authority to change the route anyway.</p>
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		<title>By: spokker</title>
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		<dc:creator>spokker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Feb 2010 00:35:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When she lowers taxes on businesses I wonder how we&#039;re going to pay for the infrastructure (transportation, education) that actually encourages those businesses to stay here.

If she&#039;s running her entire campaign mostly on stopping jobs from leaving California for Nevada, her entire campaign is based mostly on a flawed and overblown assumption. The Public Policy Institute of California 11,000 jobs moved out of California out of 18 million. That&#039;s less than a percent. Business births, deaths, contractions, and expansions have a much greater effect on employment, they said. 

And then a bunch of former California business owners come to the rescue and talk about how &quot;I RAN A DEALERSHIP BUT GODDAMN THIS CALIFORNIA IS KICKING MY ASS BECAUSE I AM A FUCKING IDIOT SO I FIRED ALL OF MY EMPLOYEES AND MOVED TO WISCONSIN.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When she lowers taxes on businesses I wonder how we&#8217;re going to pay for the infrastructure (transportation, education) that actually encourages those businesses to stay here.</p>
<p>If she&#8217;s running her entire campaign mostly on stopping jobs from leaving California for Nevada, her entire campaign is based mostly on a flawed and overblown assumption. The Public Policy Institute of California 11,000 jobs moved out of California out of 18 million. That&#8217;s less than a percent. Business births, deaths, contractions, and expansions have a much greater effect on employment, they said. </p>
<p>And then a bunch of former California business owners come to the rescue and talk about how &#8220;I RAN A DEALERSHIP BUT GODDAMN THIS CALIFORNIA IS KICKING MY ASS BECAUSE I AM A FUCKING IDIOT SO I FIRED ALL OF MY EMPLOYEES AND MOVED TO WISCONSIN.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: jimsf</title>
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		<dc:creator>jimsf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Feb 2010 00:32:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That wasn&#039;t exactly the gist of my letter, no.  Nor the one to the Mayor.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That wasn&#8217;t exactly the gist of my letter, no.  Nor the one to the Mayor.</p>
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