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	<title>Comments on: So The Palo Alto NIMBYs Think They Can Repeal Prop 1A</title>
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		<title>By: jimsf</title>
		<link>http://www.cahsrblog.com/2010/01/so-the-palo-alto-nimbys-think-they-can-repeal-prop-1a/comment-page-1/#comment-45345</link>
		<dc:creator>jimsf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jan 2010 19:45:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>synonymouse Reply:
January 7th, 2010 at 2:21 pm
My plan is harsh. Primetime is not yet ready for it..


You still didn&#039;t list the plan.   Basically your plan is to do nothing.  Which is fine if you live on Fantasy Island.     As usual, when pressed, just like the party of no,   you realize that your way of doing things, or not doing things,  has resulted in failure and you are backed into a place where all you can do is stick your head in the sand.  Meanwhile,  the worlds 7th largest economy and the nations most populous state is grappling with how to compete in what is clearly a real global economy, with nations that are investing heavily in upgrades.  

Is it your desire that California be reduced to a third world backwater, where lowering standards of living,  lessening economic clout, and dwindling political significance are the norm?  Maybe that is what you want.  Maybe you want California to fail in the same way so many like you want the US to fail for the simple fact that you didn&#039;t get your way.

Well, syn, that is not an acceptable outcome and its not an outcome that is even being considered.

You have two choices.  Move or contribute to solutions,   (or stay and complain).

YOu already know that our airports have limited capacity to expand and new runways are out of the question in most cases due to environmental and noise constraints.

The same is true for freeway.    do you think adding lanes of freeway is cheaper or less intrusive than Hsr?  Its not. and its less efffective.

Try adding a lane to the 405 or the santa ana,   it wouldnt make any more difference than the last time they added a lane.

Meanwhile,  what has been done in california, is something people said would never happen. The implementation of of standard regular speed passenger rail here has been more successful than anywhere in the country.  Doesn&#039;t that tell you something?

So again,  what is the synon plan to keep cali moving and competitive on the global stage in the 21st century?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>synonymouse Reply:<br />
January 7th, 2010 at 2:21 pm<br />
My plan is harsh. Primetime is not yet ready for it..</p>
<p>You still didn&#8217;t list the plan.   Basically your plan is to do nothing.  Which is fine if you live on Fantasy Island.     As usual, when pressed, just like the party of no,   you realize that your way of doing things, or not doing things,  has resulted in failure and you are backed into a place where all you can do is stick your head in the sand.  Meanwhile,  the worlds 7th largest economy and the nations most populous state is grappling with how to compete in what is clearly a real global economy, with nations that are investing heavily in upgrades.  </p>
<p>Is it your desire that California be reduced to a third world backwater, where lowering standards of living,  lessening economic clout, and dwindling political significance are the norm?  Maybe that is what you want.  Maybe you want California to fail in the same way so many like you want the US to fail for the simple fact that you didn&#8217;t get your way.</p>
<p>Well, syn, that is not an acceptable outcome and its not an outcome that is even being considered.</p>
<p>You have two choices.  Move or contribute to solutions,   (or stay and complain).</p>
<p>YOu already know that our airports have limited capacity to expand and new runways are out of the question in most cases due to environmental and noise constraints.</p>
<p>The same is true for freeway.    do you think adding lanes of freeway is cheaper or less intrusive than Hsr?  Its not. and its less efffective.</p>
<p>Try adding a lane to the 405 or the santa ana,   it wouldnt make any more difference than the last time they added a lane.</p>
<p>Meanwhile,  what has been done in california, is something people said would never happen. The implementation of of standard regular speed passenger rail here has been more successful than anywhere in the country.  Doesn&#8217;t that tell you something?</p>
<p>So again,  what is the synon plan to keep cali moving and competitive on the global stage in the 21st century?</p>
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		<title>By: Travis D</title>
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		<dc:creator>Travis D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jan 2010 15:24:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I look forward to it.</description>
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		<title>By: CACondor</title>
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		<dc:creator>CACondor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jan 2010 14:18:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with your motives...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with your motives&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Peter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jan 2010 01:32:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Best thing Synonorodent could do to help reduce population growth would be to off himself. Then we&#039;d also be rid of him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Best thing Synonorodent could do to help reduce population growth would be to off himself. Then we&#8217;d also be rid of him.</p>
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		<title>By: AndyDuncan</title>
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		<dc:creator>AndyDuncan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jan 2010 01:11:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So you&#039;re one of those anti-population people?

Change starts at home.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So you&#8217;re one of those anti-population people?</p>
<p>Change starts at home.</p>
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		<title>By: Jathnael Taylor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jathnael Taylor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jan 2010 00:49:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>wow that is super random.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wow that is super random&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: Joey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jan 2010 23:41:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From the point of view of environmentalism we should abandon our modern society and go back to a hunter-gatherer lifestyle.  It&#039;s not going to happen though.  I agree that we should try to put a cap on humanity&#039;s population expansion, but as it is, we have growth, and we have to deal with it.  Stopping growth is an entirely different issue from HSR.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From the point of view of environmentalism we should abandon our modern society and go back to a hunter-gatherer lifestyle.  It&#8217;s not going to happen though.  I agree that we should try to put a cap on humanity&#8217;s population expansion, but as it is, we have growth, and we have to deal with it.  Stopping growth is an entirely different issue from HSR.</p>
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		<title>By: spokker</title>
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		<dc:creator>spokker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jan 2010 23:27:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What the fuck are you talking about?</description>
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		<title>By: synonymouse</title>
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		<dc:creator>synonymouse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jan 2010 23:05:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From the point of view of the environment no growth is only smart growth.

Imperial Rome and the ante-bellum South alone should make the case against slavery.  Not only it is unjust and cruel it undermines the security and stability of the state because it creates an permanent underclass rife with crime and ready to riot.  The super-rich and the corporations want to import a steady stream of what amount to slaves.  It is time to come up with new and better ways to do the 3-d jobs - dirty, difficult and dangerous.  That&#039;s what tech and particularly robotics are all about.

And the caste society the elite demands will only become more entrenched.  The new jobs will require wunderkinder skills sadly beyond the reach of the average joe.  The loathsome, garbage ideology known as &quot;meritocracy&quot; is based upon the premise that successful entrepreneurs demonstrate their superiority by their accomplishments.  With genetic engineering the elite will be able to make that putative superiority a physical fact.  A new aristocracy - isn&#039;t progress wonderful?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From the point of view of the environment no growth is only smart growth.</p>
<p>Imperial Rome and the ante-bellum South alone should make the case against slavery.  Not only it is unjust and cruel it undermines the security and stability of the state because it creates an permanent underclass rife with crime and ready to riot.  The super-rich and the corporations want to import a steady stream of what amount to slaves.  It is time to come up with new and better ways to do the 3-d jobs &#8211; dirty, difficult and dangerous.  That&#8217;s what tech and particularly robotics are all about.</p>
<p>And the caste society the elite demands will only become more entrenched.  The new jobs will require wunderkinder skills sadly beyond the reach of the average joe.  The loathsome, garbage ideology known as &#8220;meritocracy&#8221; is based upon the premise that successful entrepreneurs demonstrate their superiority by their accomplishments.  With genetic engineering the elite will be able to make that putative superiority a physical fact.  A new aristocracy &#8211; isn&#8217;t progress wonderful?</p>
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		<title>By: Joey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jan 2010 22:23:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;There is no such thing as smart growth&quot;

True but there is smart&lt;i&gt;er&lt;/i&gt; growth, and &lt;i&gt;less&lt;/i&gt; smart growth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;There is no such thing as smart growth&#8221;</p>
<p>True but there is smart<i>er</i> growth, and <i>less</i> smart growth.</p>
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