So The Palo Alto NIMBYs Think They Can Repeal Prop 1A
I’m surprised it took them this long to think of this, but led by a newspaper that should know better than to print inaccuracies, the Palo Alto NIMBYs are going to try and mount an effort at repealing Prop 1A and blocking job creation in California. This nascent effort is being launched by a Palo Alto newspaper, the Daily Post, which announced this Don Quixote campaign today. They don’t really have anything more than a single op-ed, but this is worth pushing back against quickly, so I’ll do that here.
On Dec. 18, the Daily Post editorial page came out against the high-speed rail project. (Actually, back in October 2008, we urged local voters to reject it.) Today’s editorial suggests the next steps the community could take to stop this project.
Right there you have to wonder about them – if the Daily Post urged voters to reject Prop 1A, they failed utterly. 60.4% of Santa Clara County voters and 61.1% of San Mateo County voters voted for Prop 1A. But public dismissal hasn’t stopped the Daily Post from trying to kill the project that local and statewide voters approved.
It’s disappointing to talk to our local elected officials about the proposed California High Speed Rail project. Nearly all of them were cheerleaders for the project when it was on the ballot in November 2008, and they’re still supporters despite massive public opposition.
Define “massive.” I want to see this quantified. How does the Daily Post know there is “massive” opposition?
As to elected officials, perhaps they read the results of the Prop 1A vote and realize their constituents want this train? That they want the jobs it will provide? The grade separations that will save lives? The electrification that will keep Caltrain alive? The quieter and cleaner trains? The ability to quickly go to San Jose or San Francisco or LA affordably and without worsening global warming?
Sure, they qualify their support. State Sen. Joe Simitian, D-Palo Alto, says he favors it if “done right.”
But by not directly fighting it, they give the unelected board of the high-speed rail authority room to continue their plans, which will greatly damage the quality of life we enjoy here on the Peninsula.
Ooo, the board is unelected. It is, however, appointed by elected officials. It cannot spend money without legislative authorization. This is another silly line of attack, since most transit planning is done by appointed officials and reviewed and approved by elected officials.
After the November 2008 election, the public turned against this project when it heard that this new railroad would cut a swath three to four times wider than Caltrain through the heart of most of the Peninsula’s communities. During much of its course along the Peninsula, it’s possible that this new bullet train will be elevated on 15-foot-high berms.
I am continuously stunned at how journalists believe that the usual rules of evidence and proof do not apply to the editorial page. The public certainly has NOT turned against this project; the opposition merely whined louder. Caltrain already owns most of the ROW so it won’t be “three or four times wider” in most places. And so what if it’s elevated on a 15-foot berm?
Politicians then said we shouldn’t worry because the train could be put in a tunnel, and all of our problems would go away. Well, the rail authority’s new business plan has no money for a tunnel. A tunnel is not going to happen.
Any politician who said that was a fool. But I’m not sure any of them actually did. The Daily Post merely hears what it wants to hear. Of course, I predicted long ago that the push for a tunnel on the part of people like Martin Engel was a cynical strategy to try and turn Palo Alto and neighboring cities against HSR by getting them to think it had to be a tunnel or nothing – and then when a tunnel became too expensive, they’d have a basis to try and kill the project.
If the Daily Post wants a tunnel, why not organize around funding it? Their knee-jerk “kill HSR” stance shows they were never serious about a tunnel to begin with.
Another problem is that California, with a $20 billion budget deficit, simply cannot afford the rail project, which currently has a price tag of $42 billion, and will probably be much larger when completed if cost overruns on other mass transit projects are any indication.
Californians rejected this argument too, one that was made frequently during the 2008 campaign. Voters understood that we can’t afford NOT to build HSR, that the cost of oil dependence, global warming, and the lack of jobs in this state was too much to bear, and that HSR was a cheaper option.
So we — the citizens of the Peninsula — need to rise up and stop this disaster. Here’s our four-point plan.
1. We need a leader who is unequivocally committed to stopping high-speed rail. Not somebody who was a supporter last year but is an opponent now.
Oh, I’m sure Martin Engel or Morris Brown are available.
2. Let’s put high-speed rail back on the state ballot. It will take close to half a million signatures, which means we need money to pay signature gatherers.
Do you have $2 million lying around?
Paying for signatures is an extremely expensive proposition. The going rate for signature gathering rises the closer you get to qualification date – I’ve seen figures of $4 or $5 per signature. If they don’t get started right now, they won’t make the November 2010 ballot. The soonest they could get it to voters would be 2012, by which point the state would have already sold bonds and accepted federal funding. If voters repealed Prop 1A then, California’s credit rating would instantly become junk status and we’d be facing a truly dire financial crisis.
Our argument to California voters: This is a boondoggle our state government cannot afford. The cost per California resident will be $1,167. Is this project really worth that?
Amortize that cost out over the 30 year life of the bond, since nobody would be paying $1,167 all at once. That comes out to $38.90 per year, or just over 10 cents per day. A dime a day for 30 years for high speed rail. That’s too expensive?! Really?
3. More of our city governments need to fight this through litigation. The Atherton-Menlo Park suit was partially successful, but other cities such as Palo Alto, San Mateo, Burlingame and Redwood City need to file their own suits, attacking this project for different reasons.
I’m sure a judge will love hearing that these suits are filed merely to attack the project without any specific legal merit. The Atherton-Menlo Park case lost on virtually all of its claims, and got lucky that the CHSRA hadn’t squared away the UPRR route issue.
4. The rail authority will probably use eminent domain to seize the hundreds (if not thousands) of homes and businesses along the path of this new railroad. Most property owners don’t have the millions it will take to fight the rail authority in court. So city governments should start developing a legal defense program for their residents. If we make it hard for the railroad to grab land, we might be able to derail this thing.
This is just fascinating. First, the Daily Post is lying to readers; there are no plans at all to seize hundreds or thousands of homes. Only a small handful of property will need to be taken and it’s unclear if anyone will actually lose their home over it. Even so, this is revealing of the NIMBY mentality, that government exists to protect their property values. Why the hell should other Palo Alto residents waste their money on propping up someone else’s land value? These NIMBYs are basically asking their neighbors for a bailout. It’s ridiculous.
There’s more we can do. Demonstrations, more educational seminars and voting against politicians who either support the project or who try to ride the fence. We should make high-speed rail the dominant issue in every city council, county supervisor and state Legislature race. Let’s start a revolution. We’re talking about the quality of our lives, the seizure of hundreds if not thousands of homes, and a rip-off of our state government.
Does anybody hear Paul Revere out there?
All I hear is a train whistle.
This is the most cockamamie scheme I’ve seen in some time. It’s a bizarre mish-mash of teabaggers and NIMBYs, doomed to go precisely nowhere.
The notion that they can get a repeal on the ballot is absurd. If they somehow did, they’d be massively outspent by large corporations (including many of those in the Palo Alto area who employ many local residents and keep the economy humming) and labor unions. Politicians who are forced to choose between jobs and NIMBYs are not going to be scared of a few well-off folks when the public still supports the project and demands the jobs and improved train service the project will bring.
As to quality of life, what the NIMBYs refuse to accept is that the 2008 election showed that most people on the Peninsula have a different vision of “quality of life.” Theirs includes fast passenger trains, grade separated to reunite the community safely and gracefully. They don’t believe that a good quality of life means being shackled to their cars and to rising oil prices merely to subsidize a few whiny NIMBYs.
If the Daily Post wants to tilt at windmills, I guess there’s nothing we can do to stop them. But Californians aren’t going to sit quietly by while their HSR project is attacked like this. The groundswell to defend and promote HSR is growing, and ultimately, this op-ed will merely strengthen HSR and public support for it.

I am truly disgusted with the people in the peninsula. These types of ignorant whiners epitomize everything that is wrong with this country. We really need to take away their station so that they won’t benefit from the great project they hope to destroy in their misguided march towards evil.
HSRforCali Reply:
January 6th, 2010 at 10:08 pm
We really need to form an advocacy group that’s as loud, if not louder than the NIMBYs. Robert, what about the Californians for High-Speed Rail? When will we start hearing from them loud and clear what the truth is?
Robert Cruickshank Reply:
January 7th, 2010 at 10:12 am
Probably next week. We’re working hard on the relaunch.
Travis D Reply:
January 8th, 2010 at 7:24 am
I look forward to it.
A rail line that will provide fast, efficient service between LA and San Francisco is a boondoggle, but an interstate highway that runs from Shreveport, Louisiana to the Arkansas border or a bypass around Martin, Tennessee or a widening of Interstate 5 or Interstate 70 in rural areas are sound uses of taxpayer dollars. This is the mentality that is pervasive on both sides of the issue (newspapers which conservatives love to deride as liberal-biased often have anti-rail stories, along with both conservative and liberal politicians) and this mentality has to stop now. Individual freedom means freedom of choice, and if I want high speed rail (and I don’t own a car so I very well do want it) I should have every right to have it as the guy who wants a giant expressway over his house (and the Penninsula NIMBYs would probably not care about that). It’s a shame that rail projects have to be put up to a popular vote but road projects (which, by the way, are far less cost-effective than transit) get shoved down our throats. Don’t want to pay for my rail? Fine. I’ll whine about paying for your roads, which I do through sales tax, income tax, and property tax (which I pay through my rent).
I’m not really sure why you even wrote this post. The paper is completely unknown outside the peninsula, and probably even outside a couple towns in the peninsula and has no online presence. This blog probably has a higher readership. You can’t respond to every ridiculous article that comes out in every unread paper.
The daily post has as much chance of repealing prop 1A as I have of swimming to the moon.
CACondor Reply:
January 7th, 2010 at 7:43 am
I live in Foster City (next to San Mateo on the peninsula) and that newspaper has no circulation here.
Robert Cruickshank Reply:
January 7th, 2010 at 10:14 am
That’s true that their readership is tiny. But I do believe in quickly responding to new ideas and claims, especially this one. Sure, this might not go anywhere – but it could get taken up by people with some money or time to try and mount a serious effort to repeal it. In any case, I firmly believe, and have always believed, that rapid response to HSR deniers is a good thing to do at this blog.
CACondor Reply:
January 8th, 2010 at 6:18 am
I agree with your motives…
Robert, may I suggest a link to Why They Chose the Caltrain Corridor… an oldie but goodie to debunk the eminent domain FUD.
For those who don’t have the privilege to read it, the Daily Post thrives on controversy and a contrarian, right-leaning streak in this very liberal area. It’s often an entertaining read, but not one with high journalistic values: the line between their reporting and opinion page is unusually blurry.
The Daily Post is free and 100% ad supported, which is why every opportunity to stir the pot is taken.
I vote we get Rachel Maddow out here to debate the author, and then I vote to remove PA from the station list. The authority needs to put PA business, university, and labor on notice that if they can not get a handle on their local village idiots, then their station and its accompanying benefits will be revoked.
synonymouse Reply:
January 7th, 2010 at 1:17 am
Does Palo Alto want a station? Let them vote on it.
spokker Reply:
January 7th, 2010 at 5:35 am
They seem to want to put HSR on the ballot again in California. Before we do that, I say we put HSR on the ballot in Palo Alto. Let’s really see how the “community” feels.
synonymouse Reply:
January 7th, 2010 at 10:29 am
“…they’d be massively outspent by large corporations (including many of those in the Palo Alto area who employ many local residents and keep the economy humming) and labor unions…”
This is exactly what is going to happen with the California water bond issue, wherein the power elite will spend a fortune to brainwash the electorate into paying for an LA water grab. That will be the litmus project for taxpayer-funded megaprojects in California. I do not sense any interest on the part of the hsr faithful on this site for any kind of a re-vote of any aspect of Prop 1A. The fear is palpable.
Similarly it is difficult for me to visualize “teabag” support for the current hsr scheme. My take on teabaggers is that they constitute a more populist strain of Reaganism. They would probably only support the hsr if the taxpayer component were much smaller and the private sector component much larger. I cannot see this happening with the Tehachapis detour sandbagging the travel times.
One way to approach the issue would be to get real world entrepreneurial input. But the only way to get a genuine evaluation from private investors would be if their money were actually committed to the project. A diplomatic and politically astute capitalist like Richard Branson would never publicly critique the CHSRA scheme – there would be nothing to gain from pointing out shortcomings except to make some enemies in high places. It is up to the hoi polloi like me to rag on this dumb plan.
jimsf Reply:
January 7th, 2010 at 11:34 am
did you miss the part where the project was already approved by the voters? As far as teabaggers, they are just a warmed over, re labeled, version of the same old anti tax, anti progress bunch, who have to glom onto the ignorant and fear based classes to gain even the tiniest numbers into their fold.
The water bond needs to pass because our water system is a mess. It has nothing to do with an LA water grab. If it did, I wouldn’t vote for it. The system is old and needs to be revamped. simple as that.
synonymouse Reply:
January 7th, 2010 at 12:40 pm
I used to be an easy target for establishment brainwashing. Nary again will I vote for any Pelosi machine scams.
jimsf Reply:
January 7th, 2010 at 1:10 pm
That fact that you even used the phrase “pelosi machine scams” indicates your ideological bias and lack of the very objectivity you profess.
jimsf Reply:
January 7th, 2010 at 1:15 pm
Is it your premise that a hodgepodge of aging systems, ( water, transport etc) that were built 60 years ago, will last in perpetuity without upgrade and expansion while the population those systems serve continues to grow? Put down the pipe Whitney.
Actually what Id love to hear, synon, is your plan and its costs, for building and expanding cali’s infrastucture for the 21st century.
What is the synonymous plan:
insert here> ill wait.
synonymouse Reply:
January 7th, 2010 at 2:21 pm
My plan is harsh. Primetime is not yet ready for it.
There is no such thing as smart growth, only more growth or less growth. Nature’s way of dealing with overpopulation is cruel. Humans are supposed to be able to do better. Without immigration US population growth is reasonable and manageable.
Seal the blinking border. 9-11 was marked by a failure to deport.
spokker Reply:
January 7th, 2010 at 2:23 pm
Illegal immigration is the only thing keeping this economy going. The exploitation of immigrant labor benefits you and me!
Joey Reply:
January 7th, 2010 at 2:23 pm
“There is no such thing as smart growth”
True but there is smarter growth, and less smart growth.
synonymouse Reply:
January 7th, 2010 at 3:05 pm
From the point of view of the environment no growth is only smart growth.
Imperial Rome and the ante-bellum South alone should make the case against slavery. Not only it is unjust and cruel it undermines the security and stability of the state because it creates an permanent underclass rife with crime and ready to riot. The super-rich and the corporations want to import a steady stream of what amount to slaves. It is time to come up with new and better ways to do the 3-d jobs – dirty, difficult and dangerous. That’s what tech and particularly robotics are all about.
And the caste society the elite demands will only become more entrenched. The new jobs will require wunderkinder skills sadly beyond the reach of the average joe. The loathsome, garbage ideology known as “meritocracy” is based upon the premise that successful entrepreneurs demonstrate their superiority by their accomplishments. With genetic engineering the elite will be able to make that putative superiority a physical fact. A new aristocracy – isn’t progress wonderful?
spokker Reply:
January 7th, 2010 at 3:27 pm
What the fuck are you talking about?
Joey Reply:
January 7th, 2010 at 3:41 pm
From the point of view of environmentalism we should abandon our modern society and go back to a hunter-gatherer lifestyle. It’s not going to happen though. I agree that we should try to put a cap on humanity’s population expansion, but as it is, we have growth, and we have to deal with it. Stopping growth is an entirely different issue from HSR.
Jathnael Taylor Reply:
January 7th, 2010 at 4:49 pm
wow that is super random…..
AndyDuncan Reply:
January 7th, 2010 at 5:11 pm
So you’re one of those anti-population people?
Change starts at home.
Peter Reply:
January 7th, 2010 at 5:32 pm
Best thing Synonorodent could do to help reduce population growth would be to off himself. Then we’d also be rid of him.
jimsf Reply:
January 8th, 2010 at 11:45 am
synonymouse Reply:
January 7th, 2010 at 2:21 pm
My plan is harsh. Primetime is not yet ready for it..
You still didn’t list the plan. Basically your plan is to do nothing. Which is fine if you live on Fantasy Island. As usual, when pressed, just like the party of no, you realize that your way of doing things, or not doing things, has resulted in failure and you are backed into a place where all you can do is stick your head in the sand. Meanwhile, the worlds 7th largest economy and the nations most populous state is grappling with how to compete in what is clearly a real global economy, with nations that are investing heavily in upgrades.
Is it your desire that California be reduced to a third world backwater, where lowering standards of living, lessening economic clout, and dwindling political significance are the norm? Maybe that is what you want. Maybe you want California to fail in the same way so many like you want the US to fail for the simple fact that you didn’t get your way.
Well, syn, that is not an acceptable outcome and its not an outcome that is even being considered.
You have two choices. Move or contribute to solutions, (or stay and complain).
YOu already know that our airports have limited capacity to expand and new runways are out of the question in most cases due to environmental and noise constraints.
The same is true for freeway. do you think adding lanes of freeway is cheaper or less intrusive than Hsr? Its not. and its less efffective.
Try adding a lane to the 405 or the santa ana, it wouldnt make any more difference than the last time they added a lane.
Meanwhile, what has been done in california, is something people said would never happen. The implementation of of standard regular speed passenger rail here has been more successful than anywhere in the country. Doesn’t that tell you something?
So again, what is the synon plan to keep cali moving and competitive on the global stage in the 21st century?
A great post, to debunk a not-so-great article. I just emailed Sen. Simitian to thank him for his continued support of this project, even if he has to attach the PC “if it’s done right” asterisk to it.
Honestly, it is not even worth it to respond to hit peaces like this.
Robert Cruickshank Reply:
January 7th, 2010 at 10:15 am
Maybe not. Again, I do prefer to have rapid response to new anti-HSR claims. This one has the potential to grow and get taken up by outlets with a greater reach. If so, we’ve already got our own talking points out there.
Plus, the Daily Post’s effort is easily mocked. Which always makes for a fun post to write.
Jathnael Taylor Reply:
January 7th, 2010 at 12:32 pm
True, but fishing with hand grenades gets old after a while, no? :)
“It’s a bizarre mish-mash of teabaggers and NIMBYs”
Please do not bring tea party protesters into this. I am not aware of a single instance where any organization identifying with the Tea Party has protested CAHSR.
Tea Party protestors are concerned with rampant government spending by politicians against the wishes of those citizens. In this case, HSR was voted on BY THE PEOPLE and passed.
I am a “teabagger” and also a HSR supporter. As previously mentioned, the difference is that spending on this project is an investment in the future that keeps California competitive while having possibly significant benefits to our environment. This contrasts with the $700 Billion bailout of banks which even as its being paid back, is going to be misappropriated for yet more spending.
Looking at the tactics used, the opposition is attempting to use Cloward/Pivens tactics usually seen from the far-left rather than the right. I myself, don’t see this in a left/right or republican/democrat way and I don’t think it helps to create a new way to polarize the issue.
Let’s keep the focus on the benefits to California and what the high costs will be in the future if this project is not built.
Evan Reply:
January 7th, 2010 at 11:30 am
Hey Missiondweller, thanks for posting about this. I don’t think I realized the depth of the distinction, so I appreciate you calling it out.
its as simple as this. If california is going to compete on the global economic stage, we need to invest in our transport systems, our water systems, and our energy systems. If we are not prepared when the world recovers from the recession, to compete with nations who have spend the interim investing heavily in these things, we will be left behind in the recovery.
The frustration among certain segments of california voters is with the fact that cali no longer looks and feels like the the cali of the 60s 70s and 80s that we grew up in. its unfortunate, but true. The state is populated by different people now and the majority of the grumbling, truth be told, is from older white middle class folks, (like myself) who begin to feel disenfranchised as the state changes. The difference is, I know that rather than dig in ones heels, which is futile, one has to be able to go with the flow, and figure out what benefits can come from the transition.
The new california and the new population, will seize those opportunities and be successful, while the grumblers sit back and grumble and bitch… and lose out. You have two choices, get on board and make lemonade out of lemons, or move out. But if you think you are going to dig in your heels and stop these changes from happening, you are going to be very disappointed.
Housing is dirt cheap all over the country. If you don’t see a cali that suites you in the future, then now would be the time to make your move.
I’d suggest lobbying efforts focus on the folks running for Governor … isn’t it the Governor that holds the purse for the CHSRA more or less? The Republican candidates for Governor could easily make this a major issue – “Elect me, I will stop this project that will destroy family’s homes, only benefit those capuccino sippin’ liberals with money, and cost the state billions of dollars that should be spent on X, Y, and Z instead (schools, keeping violent criminals locked up, water for the farms, whatever).
On the bond issue … just because voters passed Prop 1a by 52% to 48% doesn’t mean investors are going to buy $10 billion of bonds without expecting a level of interest that may not be reasonable for the bond issuance to go forward …. the State of California had to start issuing IOUs just last summer because the market would not buy California bonds, remember?