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	<title>Comments on: Saturday Open Thread</title>
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		<title>By: AndyDuncan</title>
		<link>http://www.cahsrblog.com/2010/01/saturday-open-thread-5/comment-page-1/#comment-46119</link>
		<dc:creator>AndyDuncan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jan 2010 22:13:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, the Velaro is produced in 2.95m width for Spain and 3.27m width for China and Russia. It&#039;s been mentioned before that customizing car body width isn&#039;t a huge deal. US Passenger loading gauge of 10&#039;6 should be the target, IMO. Unless there&#039;s some technological reason why 10&#039;6&quot; wide cars with 4&#039; high platforms doesn&#039;t work, I think it&#039;s important to keep compatibility with the NEC. I understand that they want to buy off-the-shelf trains, but those numbers should be feasible. I was a bit disappointed that the tech memos clem linked to didn&#039;t say as much. Hopefully they&#039;ll still go that direction.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, the Velaro is produced in 2.95m width for Spain and 3.27m width for China and Russia. It&#8217;s been mentioned before that customizing car body width isn&#8217;t a huge deal. US Passenger loading gauge of 10&#8217;6 should be the target, IMO. Unless there&#8217;s some technological reason why 10&#8217;6&#8243; wide cars with 4&#8242; high platforms doesn&#8217;t work, I think it&#8217;s important to keep compatibility with the NEC. I understand that they want to buy off-the-shelf trains, but those numbers should be feasible. I was a bit disappointed that the tech memos clem linked to didn&#8217;t say as much. Hopefully they&#8217;ll still go that direction.</p>
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		<title>By: Alon Levy</title>
		<link>http://www.cahsrblog.com/2010/01/saturday-open-thread-5/comment-page-1/#comment-46113</link>
		<dc:creator>Alon Levy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jan 2010 21:56:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t forget that the Velaro is 3250 mm (=10&#039;8&quot;) wide, compatible with the US freight loading gauge.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t forget that the Velaro is 3250 mm (=10&#8217;8&#8243;) wide, compatible with the US freight loading gauge.</p>
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		<title>By: AndyDuncan</title>
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		<dc:creator>AndyDuncan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jan 2010 21:22:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A lot, really. They could build everything up to and including trackwork. Just no stations or control systems. But I just don&#039;t see their private investors allowing that to happen until they have some better idea of how the system is going to integrate with CAHSR and who&#039;s going to get what out of the deal, and I don&#039;t see that happening until the operations bids come in.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A lot, really. They could build everything up to and including trackwork. Just no stations or control systems. But I just don&#8217;t see their private investors allowing that to happen until they have some better idea of how the system is going to integrate with CAHSR and who&#8217;s going to get what out of the deal, and I don&#8217;t see that happening until the operations bids come in.</p>
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		<title>By: jimsf</title>
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		<dc:creator>jimsf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jan 2010 20:20:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>and I love this...   it could be transportation in the world of the future....  or not.   &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.flickr.com/photos/32912172@N00/2666240112/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;transbay&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>and I love this&#8230;   it could be transportation in the world of the future&#8230;.  or not.   <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/32912172@N00/2666240112/" rel="nofollow">transbay</a></p>
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		<title>By: AndyDuncan</title>
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		<dc:creator>AndyDuncan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jan 2010 19:27:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Does Metrolink have any plans to run EMUs?&lt;/i&gt;

There have been rumblings, at least from CHSRA, that there is capacity on the lines from Sylmar-LAUS-Anaheim and Riverside-LAUS for a commuter service. It will depend on who ends up operating HSR and whether the commuter service happens, and whether it&#039;s branded Metrolink.

Metrolink shares most of it&#039;s track with freight (and amtrak), and unlike Caltrain, there&#039;s a large number of freight trains and &quot;train movements&quot; across those tracks each day. AFAIK Metrolink has no announced plans to electrify their fleet. Metrolink gets about the same ridership as Caltrain, IIRC, but they do it with more trains on far more track. It is my personal opinion that metrolink is the missing link in Southern California&#039;s transit plans and should get more attention and funding.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Does Metrolink have any plans to run EMUs?</i></p>
<p>There have been rumblings, at least from CHSRA, that there is capacity on the lines from Sylmar-LAUS-Anaheim and Riverside-LAUS for a commuter service. It will depend on who ends up operating HSR and whether the commuter service happens, and whether it&#8217;s branded Metrolink.</p>
<p>Metrolink shares most of it&#8217;s track with freight (and amtrak), and unlike Caltrain, there&#8217;s a large number of freight trains and &#8220;train movements&#8221; across those tracks each day. AFAIK Metrolink has no announced plans to electrify their fleet. Metrolink gets about the same ridership as Caltrain, IIRC, but they do it with more trains on far more track. It is my personal opinion that metrolink is the missing link in Southern California&#8217;s transit plans and should get more attention and funding.</p>
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		<title>By: jimsf</title>
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		<dc:creator>jimsf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jan 2010 19:17:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>oh  good news.  &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.travelpulse.com/Resources/Editorial.aspx?n=65798&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;I knew it seemed busier than normal&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>oh  good news.  <a href="http://www.travelpulse.com/Resources/Editorial.aspx?n=65798" rel="nofollow">I knew it seemed busier than normal</a></p>
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		<title>By: jimsf</title>
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		<dc:creator>jimsf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jan 2010 19:13:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>you wife raises service dogs?  hey my mom uses service dogs.  we&#039;ll shes had two over the years.  the last one is retired now to some doggy retirement ranch.

for ADA at teh stations,  requirements will vary based on the location fo course.  elevators will be needed at tbt and laus,   other ground level stations can use ramps.  on the trains,  there has to  be wheelchair space.   at amtrak we reserve lower level for folks with mobility issues.

by the way, the state has a love affair with bilevel rolling stock and Ill bet dinner at &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.butterflysf.com/gallery.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;butterfly&lt;/a&gt; that they are gonna pick something like the duplex.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you wife raises service dogs?  hey my mom uses service dogs.  we&#8217;ll shes had two over the years.  the last one is retired now to some doggy retirement ranch.</p>
<p>for ADA at teh stations,  requirements will vary based on the location fo course.  elevators will be needed at tbt and laus,   other ground level stations can use ramps.  on the trains,  there has to  be wheelchair space.   at amtrak we reserve lower level for folks with mobility issues.</p>
<p>by the way, the state has a love affair with bilevel rolling stock and Ill bet dinner at <a href="http://www.butterflysf.com/gallery.html" rel="nofollow">butterfly</a> that they are gonna pick something like the duplex.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jan 2010 18:22:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Does Metrolink have any plans to run EMUs?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does Metrolink have any plans to run EMUs?</p>
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		<title>By: AndyDuncan</title>
		<link>http://www.cahsrblog.com/2010/01/saturday-open-thread-5/comment-page-1/#comment-46057</link>
		<dc:creator>AndyDuncan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jan 2010 17:54:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Caltrain and HSR are the only operators that will be sharing facilities, and they are both due to replace their equipment. DX and any future Metrolink EMUs could and should be built to whatever standard is chosen by Caltrain and the CHSRA. So it not only will be possible to harmonize the operators, it should be a requirement since everyone is building new stations and buying new trains anyway.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Caltrain and HSR are the only operators that will be sharing facilities, and they are both due to replace their equipment. DX and any future Metrolink EMUs could and should be built to whatever standard is chosen by Caltrain and the CHSRA. So it not only will be possible to harmonize the operators, it should be a requirement since everyone is building new stations and buying new trains anyway.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jan 2010 17:47:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, I&#039;m tempted to contact Caltrain on that.

I was not planning on getting into an argument with the conductor. I would like to be able to continue taking Caltrain in the future.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, I&#8217;m tempted to contact Caltrain on that.</p>
<p>I was not planning on getting into an argument with the conductor. I would like to be able to continue taking Caltrain in the future.</p>
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