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	<title>Comments on: Quick Takes On Today&#8217;s HSR Stimulus Announcement</title>
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		<title>By: ML</title>
		<link>http://www.cahsrblog.com/2010/01/quick-takes-on-todays-hsr-stimulus-announcement/comment-page-1/#comment-68666</link>
		<dc:creator>ML</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Feb 2010 07:46:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re:#5

if the inter-regional models that CS developed for the 2005 EIR are proprietary, how can anyone actually show why the estimates are flawed?  Can you tell me what the assumptions were?  Can you tell to what extent they used SCAG&#039;s deeply flawed MAGLEV forecasts to build the Southern California Regional Model?

Does being skeptical of a far,far, far less-than-transparent forecast make one a &quot;hsr denier?&quot;</description>
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<p>if the inter-regional models that CS developed for the 2005 EIR are proprietary, how can anyone actually show why the estimates are flawed?  Can you tell me what the assumptions were?  Can you tell to what extent they used SCAG&#8217;s deeply flawed MAGLEV forecasts to build the Southern California Regional Model?</p>
<p>Does being skeptical of a far,far, far less-than-transparent forecast make one a &#8220;hsr denier?&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: ML</title>
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		<dc:creator>ML</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Feb 2010 07:38:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>you might want to try and run this by the actual employees of CHSRA.  They are saying, to anyone who will actually listen, that they will price off commuters.  

many of the relevant stakeholders see high speed rail as a possible threat to the metrolink business model.  this is why you see studies on high speed commuter service overlays in San Diego county, but not in the rest of southern california.

Senior staff at CHSRA are repeatedly saying that they will not serve a commute market, because their prices will be too high, and they don&#039;t want to offer discounted monthly passes.   It&#039;s my understanding that they see their business model as closer to America Airlines than Amtrak. Whether or you or I or anyone else agrees with that decision.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you might want to try and run this by the actual employees of CHSRA.  They are saying, to anyone who will actually listen, that they will price off commuters.  </p>
<p>many of the relevant stakeholders see high speed rail as a possible threat to the metrolink business model.  this is why you see studies on high speed commuter service overlays in San Diego county, but not in the rest of southern california.</p>
<p>Senior staff at CHSRA are repeatedly saying that they will not serve a commute market, because their prices will be too high, and they don&#8217;t want to offer discounted monthly passes.   It&#8217;s my understanding that they see their business model as closer to America Airlines than Amtrak. Whether or you or I or anyone else agrees with that decision.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Cruickshank</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert Cruickshank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Feb 2010 04:41:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, he is. I know his type well from having grown up reading similar trash in the editorial pages of the OC Register.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, he is. I know his type well from having grown up reading similar trash in the editorial pages of the OC Register.</p>
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		<title>By: Brandon from San Diego</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brandon from San Diego</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Feb 2010 04:41:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I believe a lot of Americans are declared/registered &quot;Independant&quot; to stop getting all that mf&#039;ng mailers!!!!!!!!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe a lot of Americans are declared/registered &#8220;Independant&#8221; to stop getting all that mf&#8217;ng mailers!!!!!!!!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Brandon from San Diego</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brandon from San Diego</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Feb 2010 04:40:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Something is wrong with Chris Reed... he&#039;s the guy in the SD Trib, right?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Something is wrong with Chris Reed&#8230; he&#8217;s the guy in the SD Trib, right?</p>
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		<title>By: Brandon from San Diego</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brandon from San Diego</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Feb 2010 04:38:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No... synomyn is mostly correct.  A double dip is a clear possibility.  

To it... foreclosures are heading up in San Diego despite no increase in filings.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No&#8230; synomyn is mostly correct.  A double dip is a clear possibility.  </p>
<p>To it&#8230; foreclosures are heading up in San Diego despite no increase in filings.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Feb 2010 00:20:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, if I recall correctly, most portions of the autobahns have speed limits during the day to contral traffic flows, and revert to no speed limit at night.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, if I recall correctly, most portions of the autobahns have speed limits during the day to contral traffic flows, and revert to no speed limit at night.</p>
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		<title>By: Alon Levy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alon Levy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Feb 2010 00:17:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In the US it&#039;s 75 mph in a few predominantly rural states, such as Montana; 65 intercity in the rest of the country; and between 40 and 55 within cities. Unofficially, when traffic is light and driving conditions are good, the cops let you do 10 mph above the speed limit.

It&#039;s nothing like, say, Italy, where, no matter what the speed limit is in principle, in practice people drive 160-200 km/h on the intercity autostrade.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the US it&#8217;s 75 mph in a few predominantly rural states, such as Montana; 65 intercity in the rest of the country; and between 40 and 55 within cities. Unofficially, when traffic is light and driving conditions are good, the cops let you do 10 mph above the speed limit.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s nothing like, say, Italy, where, no matter what the speed limit is in principle, in practice people drive 160-200 km/h on the intercity autostrade.</p>
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		<title>By: Alon Levy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alon Levy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Jan 2010 09:51:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t be snippy. The part about counting staircases is a valid question. If there&#039;s a pair of staircases both leading to one exit, you can count them as 1 or 2. I&#039;m counting them as 1, in which case there are 2 on the NJT platforms, 5 on the northernmost LIRR platforms, and 4 on the platforms in the middle.

The part about Amtrak operations is valid, too. Amtrak&#039;s plan to move its back offices elsewhere doesn&#039;t involve Moynihan, but a separate building further to the south. But at any rate, the question isn&#039;t who owns the space, but what&#039;s done with it. I just don&#039;t see TJPA put back offices for any company in the middle of a congested concourse. And if Amtrak were even minimally competent it wouldn&#039;t do so either; it would forfeit the extra rent for better station circulation, which would increase passenger throughput.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t be snippy. The part about counting staircases is a valid question. If there&#8217;s a pair of staircases both leading to one exit, you can count them as 1 or 2. I&#8217;m counting them as 1, in which case there are 2 on the NJT platforms, 5 on the northernmost LIRR platforms, and 4 on the platforms in the middle.</p>
<p>The part about Amtrak operations is valid, too. Amtrak&#8217;s plan to move its back offices elsewhere doesn&#8217;t involve Moynihan, but a separate building further to the south. But at any rate, the question isn&#8217;t who owns the space, but what&#8217;s done with it. I just don&#8217;t see TJPA put back offices for any company in the middle of a congested concourse. And if Amtrak were even minimally competent it wouldn&#8217;t do so either; it would forfeit the extra rent for better station circulation, which would increase passenger throughput.</p>
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		<title>By: Alon Levy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alon Levy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Jan 2010 09:40:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Japan hasn&#039;t had &quot;mixed results.&quot; It had very good growth until the liquidity crisis of 1990, leading to a 15-year deflationary crisis. The US had okay growth until 2008.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Japan hasn&#8217;t had &#8220;mixed results.&#8221; It had very good growth until the liquidity crisis of 1990, leading to a 15-year deflationary crisis. The US had okay growth until 2008.</p>
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