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	<title>Comments on: The 2009 Business Plan Is Out</title>
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	<description>California High Speed Rail support blog, spreading news and info about the high speed trains project approved by California voters in November 2008.</description>
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		<title>By: The Transport Politic &#187; With Competition in High-Speed Operation, Who Wins?</title>
		<link>http://www.cahsrblog.com/2009/12/the-2009-business-plan-is-out/comment-page-1/#comment-44984</link>
		<dc:creator>The Transport Politic &#187; With Competition in High-Speed Operation, Who Wins?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jan 2010 08:51:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] the more expensive option. In order to interest private involvement in the process, the Authority seems to be choosing to prioritize profits over increased mobility. That&#8217;s because a private company&#8217;s interest, of course, is to [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] the more expensive option. In order to interest private involvement in the process, the Authority seems to be choosing to prioritize profits over increased mobility. That&#8217;s because a private company&#8217;s interest, of course, is to [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Steven Dale</title>
		<link>http://www.cahsrblog.com/2009/12/the-2009-business-plan-is-out/comment-page-1/#comment-44418</link>
		<dc:creator>Steven Dale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Dec 2009 21:31:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hate to shill like this, but if you&#039;re interested in Urban Gondolas, Raphael, you might want to check out my website www.gondolaproject.com.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hate to shill like this, but if you&#8217;re interested in Urban Gondolas, Raphael, you might want to check out my website <a href="http://www.gondolaproject.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.gondolaproject.com</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: ticket broker</title>
		<link>http://www.cahsrblog.com/2009/12/the-2009-business-plan-is-out/comment-page-1/#comment-43911</link>
		<dc:creator>ticket broker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Dec 2009 18:17:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmmm, true enough Just don’t call it a subsidy</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmmm, true enough Just don’t call it a subsidy</p>
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		<title>By: TomW</title>
		<link>http://www.cahsrblog.com/2009/12/the-2009-business-plan-is-out/comment-page-1/#comment-42573</link>
		<dc:creator>TomW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 17:03:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Able-bodied people will just have to cary their luggage onto the train - what&#039;s so bad about that? After all, you have to carry it into the station.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Able-bodied people will just have to cary their luggage onto the train &#8211; what&#8217;s so bad about that? After all, you have to carry it into the station.</p>
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		<title>By: TomW</title>
		<link>http://www.cahsrblog.com/2009/12/the-2009-business-plan-is-out/comment-page-1/#comment-42572</link>
		<dc:creator>TomW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 17:01:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Speaking of FRA rolling stock requirements... in the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.docstoc.com/docs/18426143/NATIONAL-RAIL-PLAN&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Preliminary national rail plan&lt;/a&gt;, it said &quot;Going forward, PTC, in combination with other technologies and strategies, can offer levels of passenger protection that can be incorporated into new equipment design standards.&quot; (page 26). Reading between the lines, I would say that means the FRA reconosies there are better ways of protecting passengers that just building like a tank. (Examples: monocqoue construction rarther than underframe and body, welding not rivets, couplings that don&#039;t break in an accident, lifeguards on wheels, &#039;cup and cone&#039; to prevent riding-up, laminated glass to keep passengers inside during a collision, etc.). My bet is that the FRA will draw up a new set of specs based on outputs (&quot;the vehicle must behave like this under these conditions&quot;) rather than inputs (&quot;the vehicle must have 1 inch thick walls&quot;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Speaking of FRA rolling stock requirements&#8230; in the <a href="http://www.docstoc.com/docs/18426143/NATIONAL-RAIL-PLAN" rel="nofollow">Preliminary national rail plan</a>, it said &#8220;Going forward, PTC, in combination with other technologies and strategies, can offer levels of passenger protection that can be incorporated into new equipment design standards.&#8221; (page 26). Reading between the lines, I would say that means the FRA reconosies there are better ways of protecting passengers that just building like a tank. (Examples: monocqoue construction rarther than underframe and body, welding not rivets, couplings that don&#8217;t break in an accident, lifeguards on wheels, &#8216;cup and cone&#8217; to prevent riding-up, laminated glass to keep passengers inside during a collision, etc.). My bet is that the FRA will draw up a new set of specs based on outputs (&#8220;the vehicle must behave like this under these conditions&#8221;) rather than inputs (&#8220;the vehicle must have 1 inch thick walls&#8221;)</p>
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		<title>By: synonymouse</title>
		<link>http://www.cahsrblog.com/2009/12/the-2009-business-plan-is-out/comment-page-1/#comment-42555</link>
		<dc:creator>synonymouse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 08:43:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The consultants simply juiced their study to accord with the preferences of the folks who pay their fee.   Happens all the time.  

Improved highways have been a sacred cow of American politics for a hundred years.  The voters don&#039;t much worry about the costs of highways because they consider roads a necessity like police and fire protection and national defense.  Not fair, but that&#039;s the way it is.  Of course the highway lobby is there to campaign for more road construction and attack public transit.  Greedy unions don&#039;t help the transit cause either.

Buyers&#039; remorse is setting in over the hsr.  PR can only do so much with a flawed plan. experiencing buyers&#039; remorse</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The consultants simply juiced their study to accord with the preferences of the folks who pay their fee.   Happens all the time.  </p>
<p>Improved highways have been a sacred cow of American politics for a hundred years.  The voters don&#8217;t much worry about the costs of highways because they consider roads a necessity like police and fire protection and national defense.  Not fair, but that&#8217;s the way it is.  Of course the highway lobby is there to campaign for more road construction and attack public transit.  Greedy unions don&#8217;t help the transit cause either.</p>
<p>Buyers&#8217; remorse is setting in over the hsr.  PR can only do so much with a flawed plan. experiencing buyers&#8217; remorse</p>
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		<title>By: jimsf</title>
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		<dc:creator>jimsf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 08:39:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>oh but californians will want it and caltrans will wind up insisting on it.  especailly bike racks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>oh but californians will want it and caltrans will wind up insisting on it.  especailly bike racks.</p>
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		<title>By: jimsf</title>
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		<dc:creator>jimsf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 08:38:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yes there is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yes there is.</p>
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		<title>By: Alon Levy</title>
		<link>http://www.cahsrblog.com/2009/12/the-2009-business-plan-is-out/comment-page-1/#comment-42538</link>
		<dc:creator>Alon Levy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 05:48:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Define &quot;success.&quot; If you mean financial success, then no, the non-toll highways built from the 1910s on recovered 50% of their construction and maintenance costs from user fees. The Interstate system recovers 67%, but that&#039;s after decades of getting people to drive instead of taking streetcars.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Define &#8220;success.&#8221; If you mean financial success, then no, the non-toll highways built from the 1910s on recovered 50% of their construction and maintenance costs from user fees. The Interstate system recovers 67%, but that&#8217;s after decades of getting people to drive instead of taking streetcars.</p>
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		<title>By: AndyDuncan</title>
		<link>http://www.cahsrblog.com/2009/12/the-2009-business-plan-is-out/comment-page-1/#comment-42532</link>
		<dc:creator>AndyDuncan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 04:21:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Still waiting for one of you palmdale obsessives to provide a rational rebuttal to CHSRA&#039;s tunneling report. Calling it &quot;idiotic&quot; over and over again without providing an explanation of why their conclusions in that report are faulty is, well, idiotic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Still waiting for one of you palmdale obsessives to provide a rational rebuttal to CHSRA&#8217;s tunneling report. Calling it &#8220;idiotic&#8221; over and over again without providing an explanation of why their conclusions in that report are faulty is, well, idiotic.</p>
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