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	<title>Comments on: Is More Federal HSR Funding On The Horizon?</title>
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		<title>By: Rafael</title>
		<link>http://www.cahsrblog.com/2009/12/is-more-federal-hsr-funding-on-the-horizon/comment-page-1/#comment-41536</link>
		<dc:creator>Rafael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Dec 2009 06:17:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fair enough, if there is a broad national commitment to invest heavily in transportation infrastructure nationwide, that level funding probably could be put to good use. States for which HSR doesn&#039;t make sense will demand additional road or aviation funding instead.

However, in 3-5 years the recession will hopefully be over and there won&#039;t be any need for an aggressive public works program to stimulate the economy. Instead, such a program would be a matter of choice, of setting new political priorities and sticking with them for the long haul.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fair enough, if there is a broad national commitment to invest heavily in transportation infrastructure nationwide, that level funding probably could be put to good use. States for which HSR doesn&#8217;t make sense will demand additional road or aviation funding instead.</p>
<p>However, in 3-5 years the recession will hopefully be over and there won&#8217;t be any need for an aggressive public works program to stimulate the economy. Instead, such a program would be a matter of choice, of setting new political priorities and sticking with them for the long haul.</p>
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		<title>By: Rafael</title>
		<link>http://www.cahsrblog.com/2009/12/is-more-federal-hsr-funding-on-the-horizon/comment-page-1/#comment-41534</link>
		<dc:creator>Rafael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Dec 2009 06:03:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If a second stimulus does happen and if it is focused on infrastructure, I suppose it would make sense to cast a wider net but demand an early start of construction. In other words, get cracking on whatever is shovel ready and worth doing. The BART extension qualifies on the first count and Santa Clara county voters approved not one but two sales tax hikes, so evidently &lt;i&gt;they&lt;/i&gt; believe it&#039;s worth doing - even if it is nose-bleed expensive.

Still, this project would have to compete with many other transportation projects, many of which will sport a better cost/benefit ratio - including many in California. Politics being what it is, Congress will eventually fund what Silicon Valley wants, simply because he who pays the piper calls the tune (at least every once in a while) but BART to Silicon Valley might struggle to secure funding early on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If a second stimulus does happen and if it is focused on infrastructure, I suppose it would make sense to cast a wider net but demand an early start of construction. In other words, get cracking on whatever is shovel ready and worth doing. The BART extension qualifies on the first count and Santa Clara county voters approved not one but two sales tax hikes, so evidently <i>they</i> believe it&#8217;s worth doing &#8211; even if it is nose-bleed expensive.</p>
<p>Still, this project would have to compete with many other transportation projects, many of which will sport a better cost/benefit ratio &#8211; including many in California. Politics being what it is, Congress will eventually fund what Silicon Valley wants, simply because he who pays the piper calls the tune (at least every once in a while) but BART to Silicon Valley might struggle to secure funding early on.</p>
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		<title>By: Alon Levy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alon Levy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Dec 2009 05:24:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Manhattan isn&#039;t a destination - it&#039;s a collection of destinations. 34th/7th, 42nd/Lex, and 50th/5th are destinations. And ARC makes sure none of them can be served except 34th/7th.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Manhattan isn&#8217;t a destination &#8211; it&#8217;s a collection of destinations. 34th/7th, 42nd/Lex, and 50th/5th are destinations. And ARC makes sure none of them can be served except 34th/7th.</p>
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		<title>By: Rafael</title>
		<link>http://www.cahsrblog.com/2009/12/is-more-federal-hsr-funding-on-the-horizon/comment-page-1/#comment-41524</link>
		<dc:creator>Rafael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Dec 2009 03:36:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>These $2.5 billion are not earmarked for Florida HSR, they are a supplement to the $9.5 billion previously made available for HSR nationwide by the PRIIA and ARRA bills.

Your political calculation is interesting, but it&#039;s a truly sad state of affairs when decisions regarding billions of taxpayer dollars are based not on the merit of a project but purely on counting votes in the US Senate. Besides, don&#039;t count on any Republicans to vote for anything that could possibly be spun as a political victory for President Obama. So far, only the ladies from Maine have broken ranks and even that only on one occasion that actually mattered.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These $2.5 billion are not earmarked for Florida HSR, they are a supplement to the $9.5 billion previously made available for HSR nationwide by the PRIIA and ARRA bills.</p>
<p>Your political calculation is interesting, but it&#8217;s a truly sad state of affairs when decisions regarding billions of taxpayer dollars are based not on the merit of a project but purely on counting votes in the US Senate. Besides, don&#8217;t count on any Republicans to vote for anything that could possibly be spun as a political victory for President Obama. So far, only the ladies from Maine have broken ranks and even that only on one occasion that actually mattered.</p>
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		<title>By: adirondacker12800</title>
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		<dc:creator>adirondacker12800</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Dec 2009 03:19:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hmmm a preliminary plan that doesn&#039;t spell out all the specific details for everything...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hmmm a preliminary plan that doesn&#8217;t spell out all the specific details for everything&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: PeakVT</title>
		<link>http://www.cahsrblog.com/2009/12/is-more-federal-hsr-funding-on-the-horizon/comment-page-1/#comment-41508</link>
		<dc:creator>PeakVT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Dec 2009 02:02:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>$27B couldn&#039;t be absorbed next year.  But 3 to 5 years from now it could be.  Once companies see that a constant stream of funding will be available, they&#039;ll equip themselves for the more obscure specialties.  Besides, most of the skills needed for HSR construction are not super-specialized.  And there is slack capacity in the construction industry to the tune of a couple of hundred billion dollars annually.  ($27B figure derived &lt;a href=&quot;http://peakvt.blogspot.com/2009/10/bottom-line.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here.&lt;/a&gt;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>$27B couldn&#8217;t be absorbed next year.  But 3 to 5 years from now it could be.  Once companies see that a constant stream of funding will be available, they&#8217;ll equip themselves for the more obscure specialties.  Besides, most of the skills needed for HSR construction are not super-specialized.  And there is slack capacity in the construction industry to the tune of a couple of hundred billion dollars annually.  ($27B figure derived <a href="http://peakvt.blogspot.com/2009/10/bottom-line.html" rel="nofollow">here.</a>)</p>
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		<title>By: adirondacker12800</title>
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		<dc:creator>adirondacker12800</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Dec 2009 01:46:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It connects to Manhattan. You may have noticed that Manhattan is a destination for many many people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It connects to Manhattan. You may have noticed that Manhattan is a destination for many many people.</p>
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		<title>By: Walter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Walter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Dec 2009 01:38:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Having Florida on board is very important, because now HSR funding has little chance at getting cut out of any jobs bill. Florida has a conservative Democrat (Nelson) and a moderate Republican (LeMieux, a placeholder for Crist basically) as its senators, so its very unlikely centrists will be able hack away as they did for the stimulus bill if these two favor its passage. LeMieux in particular is important,  because as a Republican he&#039;s one more vote that&#039;s very important in preventing the threat of a filibuster from centrists like Nebraska&#039;s Ben Nelson.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Having Florida on board is very important, because now HSR funding has little chance at getting cut out of any jobs bill. Florida has a conservative Democrat (Nelson) and a moderate Republican (LeMieux, a placeholder for Crist basically) as its senators, so its very unlikely centrists will be able hack away as they did for the stimulus bill if these two favor its passage. LeMieux in particular is important,  because as a Republican he&#8217;s one more vote that&#8217;s very important in preventing the threat of a filibuster from centrists like Nebraska&#8217;s Ben Nelson.</p>
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		<title>By: jimsf</title>
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		<dc:creator>jimsf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Dec 2009 20:16:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>oh yeah I mean 200 billion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>oh yeah I mean 200 billion.</p>
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		<title>By: Alex2000</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alex2000</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Dec 2009 19:56:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>*some* of the left over money on infrastructure. About $50 billion is what I have seen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>*some* of the left over money on infrastructure. About $50 billion is what I have seen.</p>
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